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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

Tonye said:
Not many old EVs to compare with, but i can get a new ICE car for less than 12k, and i would own it.
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One of these would be a great budget EV… £7k to buy … range of 80-100 miles in summer and 60-70 in winter (real world..) might work for your situation depending on your daily use.. most people are WELL within this mileage on a daily basis
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Regardless EV’s are becoming more popular and will be the future Imo.
 
Thats ok then as long as the kids keep mining the raw materials for your battery.
Great future.
 
The supply chains for the raw materials will hopefully be verified so they are operating ethically

The new cobalt free batteries will help

Batteries will be recycled reducing the need for raw materials
I’m assuming you own absolutely nothing that has a Li-on battery then? No phone? No tablet? No laptop? If not then it’s quite ironic.

Sorry - I don’t want to sound like a climate change environmentalist but this thread is simply mind-boggling now 😀
 
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Just the usual with AA and AAA. Like everyone else thats not got an EV with an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
Think about ICE cars, the early cars may have a 5L engine but only put out about 250hp, you can easily get that out of a 2L these days.

The same will happen for EV’s… the range that a 100kWh can deliver will be delivered by a 50kWh battery with more efficient motors being developed etc.

Less raw materials needed to make a smaller battery?

There is a new battery type which eliminates the need for Cobalt… who knows what’s next around the corner?
 
Can't beat cruising in a classic in the sun with the roof down. Who cares about bhp.
 
Tonye said:
Thats ok then as long as the kids keep mining the raw materials for your battery.
Great future.
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Much better to let oil rich Dictators infringe on their citizens' human rights (ask Jamal Khashoggi's wife what she thinks of oil money). Not to mention the odd oil war. These we got used to, so they're OK. Let's just keep pumping oil out of the ground to fuel our ICE cars and pretend that it's somehow better than child slave labour.
 
Oil will always be there and the politics that it attracts. So will coal and gas.
 
Until it inevitably runs out 😂
 
Tonye said:
Oil will always be there and the politics that it attracts. So will coal and gas.
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So you have no qualms about using blood-stained oil in your car, but child labour is were you draw the line. Fair enough.
 
clk320x said:
One of these would be a great budget EV… £7k to buy … range of 80-100 miles in summer and 60-70 in winter (real world..) might work for your situation depending on your daily use.. most people are WELL within this mileage on a daily basis
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A prime example of why so many people I know and work with think EV’s are not for them. Incredibly dire and spartan vehicle that has absolutely no kerb appeal whatsoever. Gives the so hated local transport another chance though 🤔
 
Bobby Dazzler said:
It’s great that EVs can tow. It means that for those people for whom it makes most sense to have an EV can also use it for towing occasionally.

Based upon current battery technology they might have to stop more often to recharge on longer journeys than in an ICE car, but the big benefit is that they can top up their charge whilst pitched, whereas an ICE car will need to visit petrol stations whilst driving around on holiday and before setting off. Convenience and inconvenience works both ways.
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Yea but look at the new cost of an electric car that can tow, its out of my price range and same will be said of a lot of others!

Thing is about charging whilst pitched is you dont have the supply to do it, about 2-2.5kw is what you are getting when you plug your caravan into the pole on your pitch and when you read the rules it does stipulate you cannot charge your car at that pitch
 
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