Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

[markjay]

Honestly we get it, you don't want an electric car and think they are a bit sh##.
Don't get one then.

It's not that simple. Those who can't or won't give-up their ICE cars, are concerned that the cost of running them will gradually go up due to increased taxation, with the tax revenues used to subside EV drivers. Or, in other words, the government will be taxing them and their ICE cars off the road. Which is probably true.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I said before that I have a feeling that some of those opposing EVs in general are in fact simply (and often rightly) concerned about the negative impact that EVs will have on them in their particular circumstances. And, they don't believe that the authorities will take any notice of their plight in the rush to rid our roads of ICE cars. Which in turn leads them to objecting to EVs in general even when for many other people EVs make perfect sense.

Maybe. I can see that being the case in some instances.

I think that subconsciously many people associate cars with their freedom, and so some may fear that their freedom is being threatened (by removing choice) and will eventually be taken away altogether.

I have no data to support this but I suspect that there is a correlation between peoples beliefs on EVs, COVID-19, Brexit, European legislation, trust in authority/Government, and even Health & Safety.

 

[Fununcle]

It's not that simple. Those who can't or won't give-up their ICE cars, are concerned that the cost of running them will gradually go up due to increased taxation, with the tax revenues used to subside EV drivers. Or, in other words, the government will be taxing them and their ICE cars off the road. Which is probably true.

I'm sure your right but honestly it's so boring reading every bulls##5 reason under the sun why someone won't switch, that's fine I get it.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I'm sure your right but honestly it's so boring reading every bulls##5 reason under the sun why someone won't switch, that's fine I get it.

Are you suggesting that I don't really regularly drive from Glasgow to Morocco without stopping, whilst towing a caravan, and only ever stop for fuel and then it must be only the bare minimum number of stops and for the bare minimum amount of time, and not even have a drink or toilet stop? How dare you, I do it all the time.

Oh and the infrastructure is rubbish, and the few chargers we do have are broken. Oh and there’s already an energy shortage, the national grid can’t cope if everyone puts their kettle on at the same time. Anyway I don’t have foreign holidays and my cars aren’t brand new so I’ve done my bit for the environment. Do I really need to bring up dieselgate? I’m only just starting, you had better pull up a chair…

Hello. Hello. Are you still there? Hellooooo. I’ve still got loads more reasons to educate you on why EVs are rubbish, and I haven’t even repeated them at least half a dozen times just yet. I’ll carry on just in case you are still listening. If it won’t work for me then it definitely won’t work for anyone. Ever. But that’s OK because whilst China are building coal fired power stations at a rate of 38,000 per year then…

 

[clk320x]

Are you suggesting that I don't really regularly drive from Glasgow to Morocco without stopping, whilst towing a caravan, and only ever stop for fuel and then it must be only the bare minimum number of stops and for the bare minimum amount of time, and not even have a drink or toilet stop? How dare you, I do it all the time.

Oh and the infrastructure is rubbish, and the few chargers we do have are broken. Oh and there’s already an energy shortage, the national grid can’t cope if everyone puts their kettle on at the same time. Anyway I don’t have foreign holidays and my cars aren’t brand new so I’ve done my bit for the environment. Do I really need to bring up dieselgate? I’m only just starting, you had better pull up a chair…

Hello. Hello. Are you still there? Hellooooo. I’ve still got loads more reasons to educate you on why EVs are rubbish, and I haven’t even repeated them at least half a dozen times just yet. I’ll carry on just in case you are still listening. If it won’t work for me the. It definitely won’t work for anyone. Ever.

Love it!

 

[del320]

A hundred or so years ago, this was the future!

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FWIW, an EV would be ideal for my lifestyle. Retired, bags of room for charging gear, and everything I require within a 40-mile radius (see my post #300)

However (spoiler alert) I have decided on my strategy: I'm investing a whole heap of dosh restoring my E320 C124. It has gone and I won't see it until at least February at which time I will reveal all!

 

[ChipChop]

 

[Tonye]

We get it, you are going to do nothing

No I'm not, i will just carry on doing my own thing and wait for the cluster feck in 2030

real person needed help

Done that most of my life for people in real need in times of life or death

vocal despite there being no apparent trigger.

The triggers aren't always apparent, but they are there. I will not be taxed off the road either.

negative impact that EVs will have on them

Cost of fuel, tax, preferential parking, what next, no lane 3, no parking within 12ft of a lamppost A roads only.

 

[ChipChop]

 

[markjay]

...what next, no lane 3...

Now there's a thought....

 

[Tonye]

Looks like some cages have been rattled, about time. It's grim up North, past Birmingham and keep going. Not many EVs about as there's not much going on up here in the northern power house. EVs might be ok down in the not so smoke as your TFL has sorted all your needs, not so up here. As for HS2, why would anybody want to get down there quicker. Another Doris waste of funds.

 

[Deleted member 159894]

Maybe. I can see that being the case in some instances.

I think that subconsciously many people associate cars with their freedom, and so some may fear that their freedom is being threatened (by removing choice) and will eventually be taken away altogether.

I have no data to support this but I suspect that there is a correlation between peoples beliefs on EVs, COVID-19, Brexit, European legislation, trust in authority/Government, and even Health & Safety.

Absolutely, it’s the same names over and over just on this forum,

 

[Tonye]

Does anyone know how much MB will charge to replace the Hybrid battery as my C350e is fast approaching 63k and 6years,it’s also now only giving me 6miles after saying 100% fully charged?

Just spotted this new post, any advice out there.

 

[markjay]

That's from Honest John in The Telegraph:

 

[clk320x]

Just spotted this new post, any advice out there.

That’s not an EV it’s a hybrid

 

[Tonye]

Never said it was. Does have a battery though.

 

[flowrider]

I have an EV and live in a flat in London. As I already said, in our street we have a charger in each lamppost, making charging very straightforward. When the car needs charging, I just park it overnight near one of the lampposts and leave it to charge.

Ubitricity installed "charge points in lampposts and bollards in the City of Oxford and in the London Boroughs of Hackney, Hammersmith and Fulham, Haringey, Hounslow, Islington, Lambeth, Richmond, Southwark, Tower Hamlets, Waltham Forest, Wandsworth, and the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea."

Hopefully, these will be rolled out to more cities.

You are lucky to have a charging point in every lamp post in your street, where I live, a small town of roughly 45,000 people, I have never seen a public charging point.

 

[Tonye]

£1,240 + cooling, ouch.

 

[Fununcle]

I have just learnt that parts on cars sometimes need replacing, f#ck that, it's walking from here on in.

 

[Tonye]

Yeah, its a pain, just replaced 2 tyres. Nearly made me scrap the car