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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

You could generate ypur own electricity via a wind turbine or solar panels ; then it is yours to do with as you wish .
You could, but who’s spending £10k on PV and at least as much again on a turbine and associated wiring? Especially if you live in your average semi in the ‘burbs….
 
they need to start taxing cyclists who exhale ever more CO2 with all their huffing and puffing .
And because every hour spent cycling increases life expectancy and so the burden on the NHS.
 
You could, but who’s spending £10k on PV and at least as much again on a turbine and associated wiring?

Battery storage (more cost) would also be essential for a PV system, otherwise you only have free power during the day (when you might not be at home).
 
True. And proof that if you dig deep enough you'll eventually find something negative to say about EVs, that's actually true. Well done, you get a prize :D
It's true , when they burn they are a right swine to put out , even more so in an underground car park where a full size fire appliance can not reach. EV's still have massive negatives that can be applied to them in their present form , just as ICE cars can . It dos not make the comment I posted on here any less valid. in the UK , in 2023 .

SWMBO is an ideal candidate for an EV (mainly due to the short distances she drives) but buying (not leasing through company/BIK) makes absolutely no sense for us at the moment

What is my prize ?
 
Imagine if (not when) all of the cars on every street have their own mini speed bump ! what fun for mobility scooter users and pushchairs.

Question . Does anyone know if this particular TESLA is in a dedicated disabled bay or has the Green council given the homeowner a dedicated parking spot ? how else would the car be guaranteed a spot right outside the front door.

PS I know Brighton has residence parking permits but the last time I visited family their we had a permit , but it was not for a particular space.
 
....SWMBO is an ideal candidate for an EV (mainly due to the short distances she drives) but buying (not leasing through company/BIK) makes absolutely no sense for us at the moment...

No no no.... you can't say that! It's far too factual and sensible. I expect you to edit your post to something like this:

....SWMBO is an ideal candidate for an EV (mainly due to the short distances she drives), but then she may have to rush at very short notice and visit her elderly mother who lives 500 miles away at any time during day or night, you never know, and so buying an EV makes absolutely no sense for us at the moment...
 
Imagine if (not when) all of the cars on every street have their own mini speed bump ! what fun for mobility scooter users and pushchairs.

Question . Does anyone know if this particular TESLA is in a dedicated disabled bay or has the Green council given the homeowner a dedicated parking spot ? how else would the car be guaranteed a spot right outside the front door.

PS I know Brighton has residence parking permits but the last time I visited family their we had a permit , but it was not for a particular space.

No dedicated parking bay.

That's one of the issues with charging using an extension cord over the pavement.

We live on the ground floor so could potentially do that, but as you noted it will only work when there's a free parking spot right in front of our flat, and obviously this can't be guaranteed (well, we could run a 300' extension cord... but this is where it all gets silly).

In quiet suburban areas where people live in houses you're more likely to have the parking spot outside your house free.
 
Imagine if (not when) all of the cars on every street have their own mini speed bump ! what fun for mobility scooter users and pushchairs.
And wheelchairs. Charging bollards at the kerb or forget it. Turning pavements into obstacle courses for the handicapped is not acceptable.
 
And wheelchairs. Charging bollards at the kerb or forget it. Turning pavements into obstacle courses for the handicapped is not acceptable.

Not an issue round where I live, we have very wide pavements. Seriously. Those Victorian were visionaries....

The Council even recently installed in our area bike sharing bays and also storage sheds for private bicycles, all on the pavements.

But obviously, where you have narrow pavements, this might be an issue. Though, the charging bollards are thinner than lampposts, which makes me wonder, if they were able to install lampposts on the pavement without causing a restriction, then surely they can fit charging bollards?

EDIT: On narrow pavements, the lampposts are more of a problem than the charging bollards?

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That's a superfast charger there, BTW.
 
Hi,
The delay of the ban on selling new ICE vehicles in the UK until 2035 is actually a clever psychological move! British people hate being told what to do by the government - so a 2030 target date would have made people hold onto their existing ICE cars or even bought new ones in 2028 or 2029.
By delaying until 2035 - this will give time for people to naturally buy BEV vehicles as they become more popular, reduce in price and go further between charges.
The ban might not even be necessary - as the automakers might not even continue making them if nobody wants to buy them!
Just look at the August sales figures for the sales of BEV in Europe & UK - the move to electrification seems to be happening quite naturally
Cheers
Steve
 
Just look at the August sales figures for the sales of BEV in Europe & UK - the move to electrification seems to be happening quite naturally
I beg to differ. If you look more closely at those figures, you'll see the majority of uptake is from company's, buying cars for employees with the associated tax break it brings. In the wider scheme of things, people are not spending their own money on EV's, so the figures are skewed.
 
I beg to differ. If you look more closely at those figures, you'll see the majority of uptake is from company's, buying cars for employees with the associated tax break it brings. In the wider scheme of things, people are not spending their own money on EV's, so the figures are skewed.

This is true, but why is it 'skewed'? As long as the tax breaks continue, EVs will sell more and more. Keep in mind that business users must replace the car with a new one every 2-3 years, which guarantees that the market remains bouyant and manufacturers keep selling new EVs. Add to this those business
users who couldn't get one before due to the lack of charging infrastructure at the time, and you got your year-on-year increase. The only question is when will the government withdraw the tax breaks. It was generally assumed that this will happen in 2030, but now it's not clear if the tax breaks will continue until 2035? Especially the near-zero BIK.
 
Found this:

"The BiK rate for electric cars has increased from 1% to 2% from 6th April 2022, and is currently fixed until April 2025. From April 2025, the BiK rate will increase by 1% every year until 2028"

This means that sale of new EVs (to finance providers) will keep growing year-on-year for the foreseeable future.

Keeping in mind that higher rate payers will have a choice between paying single-digit tax rate if leasing an EV, or give away to HMRC nearly half of it, the new EV is a no-brainer for them.
 
No no no.... you can't say that! It's far too factual and sensible. I expect you to edit your post to something like this:
There FTFM
....SWMBO is an ideal candidate for an EV (mainly due to the short distances she drives), but then we did have to rush at very short notice and visit my elderly mother who lives a 420 miles round trip away last week to sort a care home out, and so buying an EV makes absolutely perfect sense for us at the moment...as long as I keep my wood burning Macan for trips like this.... 😁
 
There FTFM
....SWMBO is an ideal candidate for an EV (mainly due to the short distances she drives), but then we did have to rush at very short notice and visit my elderly mother who lives a 420 miles round trip away last week to sort a care home out, and so buying an EV makes absolutely perfect sense for us at the moment...as long as I keep my wood burning Macan for trips like this.... 😁
But was that really an issue with the 180 mile range of your EV? You could have topped it up mid journey in 20 minutes.

Or was it about wanting a more powerful motorway vehicle for a three hour drive?

Isn't the reality that, while it makes sense to have something nippy to run around locally, a short range vehicle is a bit more irritating on the very rare occasion that you drive more than 200 miles?

Could be an Mx5 and a Macan. But could equally be a BMW i3 and a Tesla 3 long range.
 
But was that really an issue with the 180 mile range of your EV? You could have topped it up mid journey in 20 minutes.

Or was it about wanting a more powerful motorway vehicle for a three hour drive?

Isn't the reality that, while it makes sense to have something nippy to run around locally, a short range vehicle is a bit more irritating on the very rare occasion that you drive more than 200 miles?

Could be an Mx5 and a Macan. But could equally be a BMW i3 and a Tesla 3 long range.
Yes, of course we could have taken the EV, as we proved a couple of weeks ago on a 300 mile round trip. But I really have no mind to sit around mid journey in a motorway service area or worse. The comfort and 700 mile range of the Macan just make it so much less of a hassle....and there is more room for the dogs :rolleyes:
 
Yes, of course we could have taken the EV, as we proved a couple of weeks ago on a 300 mile round trip. But I really have no mind to sit around mid journey in a motorway service area or worse. The comfort and 700 mile range of the Macan just make it so such less of a hassle....and there is more room for the dogs :rolleyes:
Exactly. It's the comfort and space that matters.

If she'd had a jolly nice Golf 1.4 TSI, as all good wives should, you would have still taken the Macan.

20 minutes in the motorway services? Not so much.

I dwell on this because I'm still thinking that the smaller runaround and the bigger, long distance vehicle both have their place in life. If you have that option.

Hope the care home issue resolved cleanly. Went through four years of fortnightly trips to a care home. It's a pain but better than not doing it any more.
 

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