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which car would you go for

I think one of the cars that started the quick wagon brigade was the Volvo T5 after the touring cars etc...
I went to see those race, but I think the Audi RS2 was the first mad estate on sale (0-62 in 4.8 secs and restricted to 163 mph).
 
It has to be the estate! It will take all you need to where you want and errr...quickly!
I may be slightly biased:rolleyes:
 
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I dont see the point of debadging. With 4 fat chromed pipes coming out the back, everyone who knows will know anyway. So why bother?
I like the C class, but thats my personal. Estates ARE handy, but if its not absolutely necessary, then thats not the one. They are noisier as well - and a pain to park in car parks as they overhang a normal small UK sized bay by a fair few feet. Not as "sporty" either.
The E class is a big old boat, and unless you NEED the space and will carry 4 as the norm, then why bother? Will probably have lower residuals as well after a few years.
No. Sorry. Its the C for me. The best compromise in my book. Big enough for 4 in comfort but not so large as to be a liability down country lanes. And a real stormer.
Now if it was Cubanite Silver that would really seal the deal.
 
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A truly awful contraption - looks like a lowrider ford transit.

Thats a tad harsh I think. Obviously doesnt float your boat, but we are all different. Personally, I wouldnt buy one either, but its easy to see why people ARE drawn to them. Its one hellava lotta car for the cash and an approximate equivalent by MB/Audi/BMW/ETC would be more than DOUBLE. This is a factor which is often conveniently overlooked.
 
Thats a tad harsh I think. Obviously doesnt float your boat, but we are all different. Personally, I wouldnt buy one either, but its easy to see why people ARE drawn to them. Its one hellava lotta car for the cash and an approximate equivalent by MB/Audi/BMW/ETC would be more than DOUBLE. This is a factor which is often conveniently overlooked.

Agreed, I'm just trying to find one thing I like about it .
 
All of my life I have been forced to have an estate car, though the MB is an estate its not something that you can use as a daily workhorse, sure I have always had the big plastic floor mat in the V70R, but after 8 years you do get little tell tale marks from the constant loading. My pleasure now comes from driving the SL for as soon as I get in, I know that I am not working.

I do not think that the MB can be used as an everyday estate
 
Agreed, I'm just trying to find one thing I like about it .

There probably isnt one. Like me with some cars. I look at what some people drive and ask "why?" For example 2CV's, Nissan Figaro and the simply AWFUL little cars like some Suzukis and Daewoos. Then again, some might look at me in my W203 and say the same.
 
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All of my life I have been forced to have an estate car, though the MB is an estate its not something that you can use as a daily workhorse, sure I have always had the big plastic floor mat in the V70R, but after 8 years you do get little tell tale marks from the constant loading. My pleasure now comes from driving the SL for as soon as I get in, I know that I am not working.

I do not think that the MB can be used as an everyday estate

Whilst I like to keep my car in nice order , some people look at the depreciation and treat the car as a tool - the little scuffs don't matter to them in the same way as it does to us.
 
Whilst I like to keep my car in nice order , some people look at the depreciation and treat the car as a tool - the little scuffs don't matter to them in the same way as it does to us.

When I was looking for an SL I was horrified at the state of some of them.

At the recycling center I saw a guy unloading some barbed wire and fence post from the inside of a almost new 211 with beige leather, I asked him what he was going to do about the tears and scuffs on the seats and doors, Oh he said, they will soon vacuum off. Loads of money and no sense :mad:
 
Hello,

MY dad has had a E320cdi estate from new and that gets used, not abused. It regularly carry's all mannor of DIY stuff, sheets, wood, fencing, tiles, bricks etc. He also carried his bikes in the back.

Yes it has a few marks but its used not just look pretty thats why he bought it. He keeps it clean and tidy and he love it. For really bad waste stuff he has a trailer however :)

All our cars are used, not just show pieces, I've had acroprops (is that right) in a convertible before now... My bus has already moved doors, lawn mower, all sorts of building stuff.

Lets be honest also when you trade it it it makes didly squat difference as the sales guy thumbs his guide not even looking at the car.. :)

I agree you don't want to just damage it, but using them then yes all ours carry all sorts :)

Cheers
 
Oh he said, they will soon vacuum off. Loads of money and no sense :mad:
Oi...

;) You said you were not going to tell anyone I had no sense!

I don't understand why youir saying an estate is not an everyday workhorese. That remark has baffled me and I don't understand what you mean.

Regards
John
 
Oi...

;) You said you were not going to tell anyone I had no sense!

I don't understand why youir saying an estate is not an everyday workhorese. That remark has baffled me and I don't understand what you mean.

Regards
John
Well John take my V70R I bought it with 14k miles from a friend and it had never carried goods. For 6 years it carried with me 8 TV sets a day on average for 6 years, the seats are up carrying 2-3 and down for more that that, they are not in boxes and some are very heavy and you have to push them to the front when busy, going round corners they can fall over (top heavy)this can bruise some of the rails and trim, some were soaking wet having been out in the rain, the odd mains plug drops and marks the bumpers.

Driving and shunting backwards and forwards and turning in little lanes and drives in the dark in the dark add to the hazards.

A privately owned car does not get used like that, OK there a no marks outside other than the rear bumper that I will re finish in the spring, there are no tears inside´,but there is the bruising from when they roll around.
 
Agreed, I'm just trying to find one thing I like about it .

Plenty of room in it for the "muscle" when doing your rounds collecting protection money....

Huge boot, you can get two full sized bodies in there complete with shovels!
 
Plenty of room in it for the "muscle" when doing your rounds collecting protection money....

Huge boot, you can get two full sized bodies in there complete with shovels!

Can't see the point in shovels, one of those wickes chippers sound like the ticket.
 
Well John take my V70R I bought it with 14k miles from a friend and it had never carried goods. For 6 years it carried with me 8 TV sets a day on average for 6 years, the seats are up carrying 2-3 and down for more that that, they are not in boxes and some are very heavy and you have to push them to the front when busy, going round corners they can fall over (top heavy)this can bruise some of the rails and trim, some were soaking wet having been out in the rain, the odd mains plug drops and marks the bumpers.

Driving and shunting backwards and forwards and turning in little lanes and drives in the dark in the dark add to the hazards.

A privately owned car does not get used like that, OK there a no marks outside other than the rear bumper that I will re finish in the spring, there are no tears inside´,but there is the bruising from when they roll around.
For the circumstances you are outlining then is the estate car the best method of carrying such a cargo?

An estate car can be, or is a great family vehicle and I doubt there are many new E-class estates that are used in the way you used you Volvo.

John
 

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