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why dont people indicate anymore

ken crosley

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you see it every day. i think probably 98% of drivers do not indicate their intentions to other road users -this to me is driving without due care and attention. the sooner mr plod stands on the junctions/roundabouts and gives out fixed penalties that would teach the lazy buggers. still who am i kidding.(toooooooo busy hiding behind hedges )
 
I have nothing against Police/Traffic Police but have found the Traffic Police to be the worse for not indicating when changing lanes and they are supposed to be setting an example.

However, I think that people who change lanes without indicating should face fixed penalties of £30 (just like when they are not wearing a seat belt or are on their mobile phone whilst driving...).
 
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A couple of weeks back, i was dropping my parents off at the airport when i passed a marked police car on the inside lane - policeman then tails me for say 2 miles, and i mean TAILS me only to then overtake me and move directly in front of me without indicating and basically cuts me up.

Obvisouly trying to get provoke me he then moves back into the inside lane and i overtake him and give him a look and find him glaring at me... why? have TP got nothing better to do than harrasing motorists in this manner?

BTW.. i was in my new people carrier so it was hardly a menacing vehicle..
 
On the opposite side:-

I was test driving a monster 4x4 the other day. I pulled up to a roundabout, at proably 15 degrees off straight, pointing left if you see what I mean. The wheels (255 x 75 x 18's) were pointing a turn or so to the left.

I did not expect anyone to possibly question in which direction I might be going (it was basically a T junction). Yet Mr Rep in his bland repmobile (mazda I think?) yelled obsenities at me, one of the words I think was f****ing, the other was indicators.

Where did he think I was going? Right?

The argument is this:-
If you are so busy looking at / for indicators, you arte not looking at the road posistioning / attitude / behaviour of the other drivers. Idicators are just that - an indication - not a rule / proof etc. How often have you seen numptys leaving their right ind. on on the motorway? Loads I bet. Does this mean that you wont overtake cos they might^h^h^h WILL be pulling out on you? No - of course not - you are not a numpty.

Of course, when I'm in an ambiguous situation, I indicate.

I HATE people who idicate at a turn right only filter lane - WTF are they thinking - 'oh - ill let the guy behind me, in this turn right only lane, facing the opposing traffic, held between some metal railings, that I might possibly be going right when the right turn light allows me to turn right!' aaaaarrrrggghhh. Brain dead idiots!


sorry - ill get my coat.
 
I expect only to indicate if it benefits another road user. If its a done deal then I don't.

BUT

when i do indicate it's after i've looked in my mirror and before I do the manoevre. Many people use it to say "look - i've nearly finished changing lanes" instead of "look - I intend to change lanes".
 
Who's going to tell all the panda car drivers about this indicating?
 
GrahamC230K said:
Who's going to tell all the panda car drivers about this indicating?


and BMW drivers

/me runs for my life....
 
guydewdney said:
On the opposite side:-

I was test driving a monster 4x4 the other day. I pulled up to a roundabout, at proably 15 degrees off straight, pointing left if you see what I mean. The wheels (255 x 75 x 18's) were pointing a turn or so to the left.

I did not expect anyone to possibly question in which direction I might be going (it was basically a T junction). Yet Mr Rep in his bland repmobile (mazda I think?) yelled obsenities at me, one of the words I think was f****ing, the other was indicators.

Where did he think I was going? Right?

The argument is this:-
If you are so busy looking at / for indicators, you arte not looking at the road posistioning / attitude / behaviour of the other drivers. Idicators are just that - an indication - not a rule / proof etc. How often have you seen numptys leaving their right ind. on on the motorway? Loads I bet. Does this mean that you wont overtake cos they might^h^h^h WILL be pulling out on you? No - of course not - you are not a numpty.

Of course, when I'm in an ambiguous situation, I indicate.

I HATE people who idicate at a turn right only filter lane - WTF are they thinking - 'oh - ill let the guy behind me, in this turn right only lane, facing the opposing traffic, held between some metal railings, that I might possibly be going right when the right turn light allows me to turn right!' aaaaarrrrggghhh. Brain dead idiots!


sorry - ill get my coat.

I think you should indicate to show your intentions. Indeed - there are times even in a filter when indication is beneficial not just for road users but also pedestrians etc...

If you are at a T junction then yes, you should indicate as a matter of course.. hopefully once you are experienced at driving a car finding the indicator stalk becomes as automatic as changing gear?
Although I certainly do accept that some people indicate incorrectly and you cannot take it as gospel.
 
When ever I have to visit 'The Smoke' I find Black Cab drivers are the worst for non indication.

Telepathy rules.
 
There is no excuse for not indicating. The fact your wheels are pointing in a said direction is irrelevant - it's the indicator that states your intention. If you do not indicate correctly on your driving test then you would fail as it is a danger to other road users.
 
Am with Pammy on this one. What might not be ambiguous for you may well be for other people. Indicating should be seen as a the primary signal to other road users as to your intentions, they shouldn't have to try and second guess what is going on based on your vehicles position and orientation.
 
Seems to me there are certain areas where many people habitually do not indicate. Bracknell is one and Milton Keynes another. That is not to say those are the only places nor the worst, just where I have noticed it most. I have a theory it is because there are too many roundabouts and people have either got fed up with it or have worn their indicator stalks out.

But to me far worse than non indication is all to frequent misleading or plain wrong indication on big roundabouts.
 
Another vote for always indicating, IMO it should be automatic rather than having to think about each time whether you're going to or not.

Common one at roundabouts is car in the left hand lane indicating right ... which normally means going straight on (I guess the driver figures that the combination averages out, or something)!
 
The other day i was approaching a rounderbout, a car was coming in the opposite direction, it was one of those mini roundabouts he did not indicate so i assumed he was going straight on, he was not he was going back the way he had come, i had to break hard to stop hitting him.
I followed him and when we got to the traffic lights i asked him why he did not indicate, he said he was a policeman and indicating on a roundabout is not obligatory, i said i thought he was an idiot, which did not go down very well.
I rang my brother-in law who is a driving instructor, he said the policeman was correct. you do not have to indicate on a rounderbout.
You live and learn.
 
C43AMG said:
I rang my brother-in law who is a driving instructor, he said the policeman was correct. you do not have to indicate on a rounderbout.
You live and learn.

:eek:
 
splang said:
I think you should indicate to show your intentions. Indeed - there are times even in a filter when indication is beneficial not just for road users but also pedestrians etc...

If you are at a T junction then yes, you should indicate as a matter of course.. hopefully once you are experienced at driving a car finding the indicator stalk becomes as automatic as changing gear?
Although I certainly do accept that some people indicate incorrectly and you cannot take it as gospel.

Totally agree. Sorry Guy, but your attitude just points to the fact that you think you are above everyone else and they should think like you.
 
I agree too, indicators are on the cars for a reason, first place you look to see if someone is going to turn is the indicator not the tyre position?!?!?! Bah 4x4 drivers ;)
 
Hi,

Indicators are one of the few means of communicating with other drivers so why more drivers are failing to communicate beats me:eek: . I put it down to the much more selfish driving attitudes these days i.e. I know where I'm going so what's your problem mate!

Soon their will be a requirement for pre-cognition or telepathy to enable one to pass one's test/drive etc. but I'm OK I've already got an 'esp' button :cool:

Cheers,
 

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