Codger49
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Clk208, any chance of remembering which indie?
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Sprocket1
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A reconditioned/re-manufactured engine is something i might consider, if the dealer i purchased it from doesn't make a payment towards the £2800.00 repair bill.
Will need to make a few calls to look for a decent engine.
Thank you
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Sprocket1
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I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've had with your car. Here is a link i found which may come in useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohSv1epRHU
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Sprocket1
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It was advertised as a trade ad in autotrader. I saved the link via print screen option on computer.
Hello Mate, Going through exactly the same problem. Bought a 2005 SLK 350 with 50000on it, the first day the engine light comes on and been taking it to and fro Mercedes Exeter to get it foxed. Bought of the net XMobility direct. These people are legally responsible to pay for 3 months but it they don't you have to take them to court.
Currently waiting on a quote from Mercedes Exeter, Mercedes uk are no help whatsoever. Seems they can build and supply products unfit for purpose and walk away leaving the customer to pay them to fix a problem they created.
These car hould come with a financial warning on the windscreen
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Currently waiting on a quote from Mercedes Exeter, Mercedes uk are no help whatsoever. Seems they can build and supply products unfit for purpose and walk away leaving the customer to pay them to fix a problem they created.
These car hould come with a financial warning on the windscreen
.
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They are a fantastic engine all round. Just that bleeding balance shaft!!!!
Yes i believe so. I've e-mailed Mercedes uk saying i think they should put right a faulty product that they sold in that condition or at least supply the correct part and they certainly don't like anybody who disagrees with them.
It might be a good idea if you've got this problem to send of an e-mail to them, they shouldn't be allowed to treat there customer base with such disregard. To build and supply a product with a serious fault and then expect the customer to pay them to put it right seems a bit out of order to me.
It might be a good idea if you've got this problem to send of an e-mail to them, they shouldn't be allowed to treat there customer base with such disregard. To build and supply a product with a serious fault and then expect the customer to pay them to put it right seems a bit out of order to me.
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Hello Mate, Going through exactly the same problem. Bought a 2005 SLK 350 with 50000on it, the first day the engine light comes on and been taking it to and fro Mercedes Exeter to get it foxed. Bought of the net XMobility direct. These people are legally responsible to pay for 3 months but it they don't you have to take them to court.
Currently waiting on a quote from Mercedes Exeter, Mercedes uk are no help whatsoever. Seems they can build and supply products unfit for purpose and walk away leaving the customer to pay them to fix a problem they created.
These car hould come with a financial warning on the windscreen
You've legally got six months with a trader although they generally won't tell you that fact.
martin_sv
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The Masters of Weasel Words>>>Mercedes UK just say it's not a known problem in the Uk
Mercedes UK just say it's not a known problem in the Uk,--oh really!! I wish you Good luck with your claim----history would seem to show eg with corrosion claims--- that once a court action is launched by an individual in the UK --they fold ----- So just go for it!! ( and it won;t take 4 years either)
This is the US class action started in 2010 which Mercedes finally cap;itulated to in March this year. SO much for them claiming they know nothing about the fault. Masters of weasel words--I own 2 S/H mercs but I absolutely loathe the company--they would appear to take the prize for lowest of the low practices. U.S customers seem to end up with better deals than UK--they still get their SBC pumps replaced!
Mercedes M272 & M273 Engine Class Action
Mercedes-Benz vehicles equipped with M272 or M273 engines are equipped with defective gears that cause the vehicle to malfunction, according to a class action lawsuit filed in New Jersey federal court.
According to the Mercedes-Benz M272 and M273 engine class action lawsuit, these engines are equipped with defective gears in their balance shafts (in the case of the M272 engines) or with defective idle gears (in the case of the M273 engines) that wear out prematurely, excessively and without warning, causing the vehicle to malfunction, the “check engine light” to remain illuminated, and the vehicle to misfire and/or stop driving.
The only way to correct this problem, the lawsuit says, is to have the balance shaft or idle gear replaced, which is a large-scale repair job, costing customers thousands of dollars and leaving them without a car for weeks at a time.
The Mercedes balance shaft gear and idle gear class action lawsuit claims that internal company documents prove that Mercedes has known about these defects at least as early as August 2007, but has failed to take appropriate corrective action and has concealed the defects from unsuspecting owners and lessees.
“Mercedes has known all along about the existence of a defect with the balance shaft gears in its M272 engines and idle gears in its M273 engine, yet it has concealed that knowledge and deliberately omitted any information or dissemination about its existence,” the class action lawsuit says. “Mercedes’ concealment and its omission of any disclosure of the defect in the affected automobiles was not merely a case of innocent omission or misrepresentation, but rather represents an intentional campaign to fraudulently deceive the buying public.”
The Mercedes-Benz M272 and M273 engine class action lawsuit is brought on behalf of a nationwide class of owners and lessees who have vehicles equipped with M272 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 and M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2739..30 088611.
And then March's anouncement ::
Mercedes To Fund Repairs To End Engine Defect Class Action
By Caroline Simson
Law360, New York (March 24, 2015, 3:07 PM ET) -- Plaintiffs suing Mercedes-Benz USA over allegedly defective engine parts have agreed to an unopposed deal that offers putative class members the potential to receive thousands of dollars in reimbursements to repair their vehicles, according to documents filed Monday in California federal court.
The accord stipulates that Mercedes will reimburse putative class members for repair costs they incurred to replace the allegedly defective engines and will cover future repairs on the parts at issue for the lesser of either 10 years or 125,000 miles.
Mercedes UK just say it's not a known problem in the Uk,--oh really!! I wish you Good luck with your claim----history would seem to show eg with corrosion claims--- that once a court action is launched by an individual in the UK --they fold ----- So just go for it!! ( and it won;t take 4 years either)
This is the US class action started in 2010 which Mercedes finally cap;itulated to in March this year. SO much for them claiming they know nothing about the fault. Masters of weasel words--I own 2 S/H mercs but I absolutely loathe the company--they would appear to take the prize for lowest of the low practices. U.S customers seem to end up with better deals than UK--they still get their SBC pumps replaced!
Mercedes M272 & M273 Engine Class Action
Mercedes-Benz vehicles equipped with M272 or M273 engines are equipped with defective gears that cause the vehicle to malfunction, according to a class action lawsuit filed in New Jersey federal court.
According to the Mercedes-Benz M272 and M273 engine class action lawsuit, these engines are equipped with defective gears in their balance shafts (in the case of the M272 engines) or with defective idle gears (in the case of the M273 engines) that wear out prematurely, excessively and without warning, causing the vehicle to malfunction, the “check engine light” to remain illuminated, and the vehicle to misfire and/or stop driving.
The only way to correct this problem, the lawsuit says, is to have the balance shaft or idle gear replaced, which is a large-scale repair job, costing customers thousands of dollars and leaving them without a car for weeks at a time.
The Mercedes balance shaft gear and idle gear class action lawsuit claims that internal company documents prove that Mercedes has known about these defects at least as early as August 2007, but has failed to take appropriate corrective action and has concealed the defects from unsuspecting owners and lessees.
“Mercedes has known all along about the existence of a defect with the balance shaft gears in its M272 engines and idle gears in its M273 engine, yet it has concealed that knowledge and deliberately omitted any information or dissemination about its existence,” the class action lawsuit says. “Mercedes’ concealment and its omission of any disclosure of the defect in the affected automobiles was not merely a case of innocent omission or misrepresentation, but rather represents an intentional campaign to fraudulently deceive the buying public.”
The Mercedes-Benz M272 and M273 engine class action lawsuit is brought on behalf of a nationwide class of owners and lessees who have vehicles equipped with M272 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 and M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2739..30 088611.
And then March's anouncement ::
Mercedes To Fund Repairs To End Engine Defect Class Action
By Caroline Simson
Law360, New York (March 24, 2015, 3:07 PM ET) -- Plaintiffs suing Mercedes-Benz USA over allegedly defective engine parts have agreed to an unopposed deal that offers putative class members the potential to receive thousands of dollars in reimbursements to repair their vehicles, according to documents filed Monday in California federal court.
The accord stipulates that Mercedes will reimburse putative class members for repair costs they incurred to replace the allegedly defective engines and will cover future repairs on the parts at issue for the lesser of either 10 years or 125,000 miles.
Hi. Bit of an update.
Car still at Mercedes Exeter, they said four days but it's now been three weeks. I can't believe how rubbish this main dealer is.
First hold up was it wouldn't run properly after repair so they had to contact Mercedes technical who two days later told them to reset the ecu, i would have though they might have tried that.
Second they couldn't get full power took they a few more days to relize that it was out of fuel. I put £50 in it when i took it to them thinking they'd have to test drive it.
Third thing they tell me they've had to put new cam wheels on taking the bill to £3300 and then say they've fitted the old cam chain. I couldn't believe they'd done that and won't accept it back until they've fitted a new chain.
Car still at Mercedes Exeter, they said four days but it's now been three weeks. I can't believe how rubbish this main dealer is.
First hold up was it wouldn't run properly after repair so they had to contact Mercedes technical who two days later told them to reset the ecu, i would have though they might have tried that.
Second they couldn't get full power took they a few more days to relize that it was out of fuel. I put £50 in it when i took it to them thinking they'd have to test drive it.
Third thing they tell me they've had to put new cam wheels on taking the bill to £3300 and then say they've fitted the old cam chain. I couldn't believe they'd done that and won't accept it back until they've fitted a new chain.
As for the chap you bought it off, I would be checking the advert for a company name.
If the advert was placed as trade, you have legal recourse.
Up to 6 months the seller has obligation to repair basically.
As he declined any help or contribution you could easily claim full cost of repair from him/company via the online small claims process.
Whether he actually pays or not is another matter, but worth going for it.
You are letting them get away too easily.
If the advert was placed as trade, you have legal recourse.
Up to 6 months the seller has obligation to repair basically.
As he declined any help or contribution you could easily claim full cost of repair from him/company via the online small claims process.
Whether he actually pays or not is another matter, but worth going for it.
You are letting them get away too easily.
SilverSaloon
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i think if you are going to go and try to get the supplying garage to pay for the repair I think you will need to ensure it is not messed with by a 3rd party beforehand
If he refused to repair them its reasonable for consumer to get car repaired and claim costs back after.
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Personally I think asking Mercedes to contribute to the repair costs on an 8 years old car is asking a bit much. Modern day blame culture - always someone else's problem and for them to pay. If Mercedes paid out money for everyone who wanted them to contribute to a repair on a second hand car they would no longer be in business. Id say the manufacturer has a liability up until 3 years - after that you are on your own. The perils of buying a used car. You pay your money and you take your chance. Blaming manufacturer in 2015 on a 2007 car ? I mean seriously ?
I doubt you have any chance of the supplying dealer \ rogue coughing up - even more so now that a 3rd part has been at the car. I think you can only claim when you have given the supplier 3 reasonable attempts at rectifying.
I feel sorry for the OP and I hope Im never in that situation , however, you have to bear in mind the age of the car, you can never totally trust any history that comes with the car regardless, and when buying a used car its all down to research, and a bit of luck.
I doubt you have any chance of the supplying dealer \ rogue coughing up - even more so now that a 3rd part has been at the car. I think you can only claim when you have given the supplier 3 reasonable attempts at rectifying.
I feel sorry for the OP and I hope Im never in that situation , however, you have to bear in mind the age of the car, you can never totally trust any history that comes with the car regardless, and when buying a used car its all down to research, and a bit of luck.
Spinal
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I'm pretty impressed you think that the lifespan of a car is 3 years. I would expect a car to last 10 years or so.
