2007 '56' 320cdi avantgade estate.

[Bobby Dazzler]

Sounds like the car will sell itself.

Good luck with the sale.

 

[A210AMG]

Hello

Car sounds good and nice spec. If I were you put in in piston heads with lots of pics and a good write up. If you say its the cheapest in the world then it should sell no problem.

If you actually read your replys though you do come across as a little quick to shoot people down. Yes people will reply who are not going to buy...its the nature of a forum??

No need to have a go and good luck with the sale.

 

[Big Nige]

Far too many miles for a 56 plate...make it £10k and I might be interested.

(winky winky)

 

[BenzedUP]

It's a CDi 84K is nothing, these engines go forever!!

but maybe the parts of the car like suspension bushes, brakes, maf sensor etc will need replacing if they have not been replaced already but other than that it sounds like a good nice spec'd car.

best bet is pistonheads and autotrader!

Good luck with the sale, it should go with no problems!

 

[Rory]

Sounds like the car will sell itself.

That's probably a good job.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

That's probably a good job.

 

[hawk20]

Using the Vauxhall website to get part ex values from Glass's Guide, suggests the asking price may be a tad generous.

Unless I've made a mistake the 320cdi avantgarde 2007 on a 56 plate with 84k miles on the clock has a part ex price of £9,550 in average condition and £10,600 in excellent condition.
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b&sessionid=0

Being a January 2007 C class, will mean it is the old model (203 series) and model changes are rarely if ever kind to residual values.

 

[SimonsMerc]

Using the Vauxhall website to get part ex values from Glass's Guide, suggests the asking price may be a tad generous.

Unless I've made a mistake the 320cdi avantgarde 2007 on a 56 plate with 84k miles on the clock has a part ex price of £9,550 in average condition and £10,600 in excellent condition.
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b&sessionid=0

Being a January 2007 C class, will mean it is the old model (203 series) and model changes are rarely if ever kind to residual values.

Oh thanks Hawk, for some reason I thought it was an E class (he didn't say explicitly and I didn't happen to look at his avatar) hence my 7 seat question.

Good luck selling OP (you're going to need it with the attitude you've shown)...

 

[Big Nige]

Using the Vauxhall website to get part ex values from Glass's Guide, suggests the asking price may be a tad generous.

Unless I've made a mistake the 320cdi avantgarde 2007 on a 56 plate with 84k miles on the clock has a part ex price of £9,550 in average condition and £10,600 in excellent condition.
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvv1.asp?clientId=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b&sessionid=0

Being a January 2007 C class, will mean it is the old model (203 series) and model changes are rarely if ever kind to residual values.

Told you

 

[hawk20]

This is the Glass's Guide link: -
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/scripts/nuvv/nuvvV.asp?laf=VAUXHALL&clientId=VAUXHALL&nuvvPath=B&modelId=104883&valuationId=645080&manufacturerDesc=Mercedes-Benz&rangeDesc=C-Class&qualifyDesc=3.0TD+C320+CDI+Avantgarde+SE+Estate+5d+2987cc+7G-Tronic&derivativeDesc=3.0TD&bodyDoors=5&bodyTypeDesc=Estate&fuelType=Diesel&trimDesc=C320+Avantgarde+SE&transmissionTypeDesc=Automatic&cubicCapacity=2987&fuelDelivery=Direct+Injection&fuelAspiration=Turbocharged&transmissionSpeedDesc=7+Speed&transmissionDriveDesc=Rear+Wheel+Drive&yearplate=2007%7C56&mileage=84
If I've got it right, the part ex figure at around 10k is staggeringly low for a two year old car. If it cost £38k with extras as claimed in Jan 2007 (is that before discount?, the depreciation is around £14k per year. You wouldn't lose that on an S class.

I know the new model 204 is out and that does affect residuals but this still looks huge depreciation.

Second point on which I hope some will comment is that the asking prices with dealers bear no resemblance to this trade-in figure (try search engine on MB website. Cheapest I found is about £15k. Less miles of course).

I know many think dealers overcharge but on the E class the gap from part ex to asking price is much more sensible. Odd.

 

[hawk20]

I may have a clue. Just tried Glass's again, for same car but with 25k miles instead of 84k, and the part ex figure rises hugely to £13,750 in average condition and £15,300 in excellent condition. Miles matter a lot more than I thought.

 

[crockers]

I may have a clue. Just tried Glass's again, for same car but with 25k miles instead of 84k, and the part ex figure rises hugely to £13,750 in average condition and £15,300 in excellent condition. Miles matter a lot more than I thought.

Now you know why those finance deals charge 10p+ a mile if you go over 10k ...in this cars case thats £6,000 - take that off the £15-16k and you're back down towards the £10k figure you started with......................ouch.

 

[Rory]

Miles matter a lot more than I thought.

Buyers hate miles - even average mileage. They're always looking for the "low mileage" cars. An MB dealer couldn't retail that car so that very much limits its value.

Obviously there's a price at which it will sell but it might be horribly low. An auction would be the acid test. The option list sounds great but some people will just think it's more to go wrong. Could be a great car for a really low mileage user though.

It would be worth the current owner bearing in mind something that all salesmen know - people buy from people.

 

[LimitedSlip]

It will sell, at or near that price. Maybe not immediately but it will.

 

[hawk20]

Now you know why those finance deals charge 10p+ a mile if you go over 10k ...in this cars case thats £6,000 - take that off the £15-16k and you're back down towards the £10k figure you started with......................ouch.

Yes. The effect of the high mileage -according to Glass's- works out at about 7p per mile. Not bad really as you couldn't run a moped for that. It's just hard to get your head round excess miles (above average mileage) of 60k in only 2 years. That is a lot of 7p's and knocks over £4k off the part ex price.

And BTW all the PCP deals I saw all had excess mileage charges of about 6-8p, which seems fair enough.

 

[Rory]

It's just hard to get your head round excess miles (above average mileage) of 60k in only 2 years. That is a lot of 7p's and knocks over £4k off the part ex price.

It's not bad if you run it on expenses, or even as tax free money from your own business at 25p/mile (after the first 10K miles at 40p).

Even if the OP hasn't funded the car in such a way then hopefully it's been used for something profitable rather than just a doing a huge amount of running around.

 

[hawk20]

It's not bad if you run it on expenses, or even as tax free money from your own business at 25p/mile (after the first 10K miles at 40p).

Even if the OP hasn't funded the car in such a way then hopefully it's been used for something profitable rather than just a doing a huge amount of running around.

Yes. Once all the fixed costs like insurance, VED, and so on have been paid, you are left with: -
fuel 12p to 14p per mile (say 35-40 mpg as high mileage probably means lots of long runs).
tyres 2.5p per mile (say £500 every 20k or so)
basic servicing 2.5p per mile (average of approx £250 every 15,500 miles).

That's about 18p so far. Now the effect on depreciation of 7p per mile and that takes you up to the 25p per mile. BUT there is no slack to cover brake pads and discs, or brake fluid change at 2 years, or anything like wiper blades and any other repairs. Anything else I've forgotten? The 25p allowance looks over-mean if my figures are even approximately correct.

 

[crockers]

Take out the total care + tyres

Look at the 80.000 or 4 years what ever comes first....he would have paid £80 a month over the two year period then having reached his mileage limit the scheme would have stopped. That works out at 2.5p a mile...brakes/discs/service/tyres....or have i misread it..even if he was charge the full 4 years thats only 5p a mile for all the above..

Value...

opps those rates were for the A class - the C Class is £87 a month -- still good value

 

[Rory]

You would have to pay the full amount - on ServicePlus they surcharge if you go over the annual mileage.

I reckon the Service Package inc brakes and tyres at £4200 for 80K miles is on the high side but not a million miles out. The thing is, as I find with ServicePlus that I have, you'd be amazed at how little servicing these cars *really* need. MB won't be changing pads and disks a bit early as they would expect you to do as a cash paying customer, and they'll only change tyres when they're at 2mm.

 

[Dryce]

The 25p allowance looks over-mean if my figures are even approximately correct.

Our company policy is to hire cars if people have to travel more than a trivial mileage.

I was getting auto mid-size car at £22 + VAT per day including zero excess unlimited mileage, servicing, two drivers (£20 for a manual). Average use per day was around 160 miles. Petrol was basically coming in at about £12 to £13 per day + VAT.

So all in the cost per mile was working out at 22p.

Petrol prices can shift that up/down a bit