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Nokian WR's on the REAR
NICK in reply to your point about winter tyres on the rear see the quote above. I have highlighted the relevant parts in bold. Although it refers to studded tyres it also applies to snow tyres in winter conditions.
I hope John doesn't mind me quoting part of his post, but it sums up what I have found with Nokian WR's( non studded all season) on the rear axle. I appreciate that a true snow tyre like a Nokia Hakkka 4 or VREDESTEIN icetrac with a very open tread will be very " squirmy" on dry tarmac leading to "interesting" handling. However the Nokian WR and VREDESTEIN wintrac are sort of "cross over" snow tyres which rely more on multiple siping and a low temperature silica rubber mix rather than very aggressive tread patterns. They have slightly wider grooves than a summer tyre but not so much to allow lateral movement of the tread blocks under cornering forces. Compare them with the grip of a close patterned summer tyre in the warm and dry and they lose out of course but the difference is not as much as you would think. Having tyres on the rear which grip slightly better than the front in snow and ice tends to change what was an "oversteering" mercedes back to the more stable "understeering" car it normally is. The fact is that you can run these cross over tyres all year round if you want and I have done this in the past. With a little circumspection on tight wet roundabouts I have found no handling problems in the summer!! Just what I have found but others may disagree.
glojo said:Driving on studded snow tyres. If studded tyres are installed on the front of any vehicle, they must also be installed on the rear.
The beginning of movement and acceleration of any vehicle in snow, ice and other adverse cold weather conditions is highly dependent on the traction qualities of the tyres on the driving axle. The controlled handling and braking of a vehicle after it is in motion in adverse weather conditions, however, is highly dependent on the traction of the rear tyres. Consequently, the rear tyres of any vehicle must have equal or higher traction capabilities than the front tyres for safe vehicle operation.
Because of the higher traction qualities of studded snow tyres under most winter weather conditions, installation of only two studded snow tyres on the front of any vehicle (especially front wheel drive vehicles) without two studded snow tyres on the rear can cause adverse (unsafe) handling characteristics.
NICK in reply to your point about winter tyres on the rear see the quote above. I have highlighted the relevant parts in bold. Although it refers to studded tyres it also applies to snow tyres in winter conditions.
I hope John doesn't mind me quoting part of his post, but it sums up what I have found with Nokian WR's( non studded all season) on the rear axle. I appreciate that a true snow tyre like a Nokia Hakkka 4 or VREDESTEIN icetrac with a very open tread will be very " squirmy" on dry tarmac leading to "interesting" handling. However the Nokian WR and VREDESTEIN wintrac are sort of "cross over" snow tyres which rely more on multiple siping and a low temperature silica rubber mix rather than very aggressive tread patterns. They have slightly wider grooves than a summer tyre but not so much to allow lateral movement of the tread blocks under cornering forces. Compare them with the grip of a close patterned summer tyre in the warm and dry and they lose out of course but the difference is not as much as you would think. Having tyres on the rear which grip slightly better than the front in snow and ice tends to change what was an "oversteering" mercedes back to the more stable "understeering" car it normally is. The fact is that you can run these cross over tyres all year round if you want and I have done this in the past. With a little circumspection on tight wet roundabouts I have found no handling problems in the summer!! Just what I have found but others may disagree.
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