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I've been in touch with Blue Ridge MB here in the states. They have several 32v's in the shop and they have probably seen more there than anywhere else on the globe in recent years. They have been wonderfully helpful thus far but unfortunately there are still questions to be answered. 
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M117 amg 4v dohc
During the past year, since taking possession of the AMG DOHC 4V heads and engine, I have spent a considerable amount of time on research.
This particular example was pulled and disassembled over a decade ago. At the time, the heads were sent out for machining but were never completed and many of the valve train bits went missing.
Assuming that the DOHC 4V heads would check out to be sound, I continued to search far and wide for the missing bits and additional reference materials. One gentleman in Germany, Jorg, reached out and provided me with samples and reference materials for each of the missing bits, which could be used to reproduce the bits if needed. I chose to hold out, as I was still confident that the originals could be located that of which included intake and exhaust valves, valve springs, cups and retainers.
There was one potential resource that I had overlooked here, stateside, Mr. Hartmut Fehyl at Renntech. For those not familiar, he was the lead tech/engineer at AMG North America prior to AMG merging with Mercedes Benz and was responsible for all of the authorized DOHC 4V installations in the U.S. during that time. He later formed Renntech and completed a number of AMG DOHC installation there and continues to produce and engineer products for contemporary Mercedes Benz models today.
As a pleasant surprise, not only did he provide the missing pieces, but Mr. Fehyl also took the time to share his invaluable experience with the DOHC engines. The bits arrived last month and work could begin on the heads and block.
Everything was sent off to Motor Works near San Diego, CA, where Sergio Bartolino, who had work with these back in the day, began taking inventory, disassembling, cleaning and inspecting. The short block was stripped and proved to be reflective of the low mileage claimed by the previous owner. There was some scoring in one of the cylinders, but everything else in/on the short block passed inspection.
One of the valve seats was suspect and was replaced. Also, the valve guides installed previously were not only incorrect but not properly installed, thus they were removed and replaced.
More later...
During the past year, since taking possession of the AMG DOHC 4V heads and engine, I have spent a considerable amount of time on research.
This particular example was pulled and disassembled over a decade ago. At the time, the heads were sent out for machining but were never completed and many of the valve train bits went missing.
Assuming that the DOHC 4V heads would check out to be sound, I continued to search far and wide for the missing bits and additional reference materials. One gentleman in Germany, Jorg, reached out and provided me with samples and reference materials for each of the missing bits, which could be used to reproduce the bits if needed. I chose to hold out, as I was still confident that the originals could be located that of which included intake and exhaust valves, valve springs, cups and retainers.
There was one potential resource that I had overlooked here, stateside, Mr. Hartmut Fehyl at Renntech. For those not familiar, he was the lead tech/engineer at AMG North America prior to AMG merging with Mercedes Benz and was responsible for all of the authorized DOHC 4V installations in the U.S. during that time. He later formed Renntech and completed a number of AMG DOHC installation there and continues to produce and engineer products for contemporary Mercedes Benz models today.
As a pleasant surprise, not only did he provide the missing pieces, but Mr. Fehyl also took the time to share his invaluable experience with the DOHC engines. The bits arrived last month and work could begin on the heads and block.
Everything was sent off to Motor Works near San Diego, CA, where Sergio Bartolino, who had work with these back in the day, began taking inventory, disassembling, cleaning and inspecting. The short block was stripped and proved to be reflective of the low mileage claimed by the previous owner. There was some scoring in one of the cylinders, but everything else in/on the short block passed inspection.
One of the valve seats was suspect and was replaced. Also, the valve guides installed previously were not only incorrect but not properly installed, thus they were removed and replaced.
More later...
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The missing bits, found.
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Excellent, will this be going into your or just kept for the mantle piece?
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Good question. A wise man would have just assembled the engine as found and put it on display. Instead, we've taken the time to bring this relic back to life properly and it will eventual slip into the Wide Body.
The entire build can be followed here: AMG Classic Forums
kth286
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My god! I want that more than Cameron Diaz!
Why would she want one ?
kth286
MB Enthusiast
A forum member here called VLAD had his rare Hammer engine repaired/rebuilt by specialists in the UK, a few years back.
He's currently posting from the Black Sea area in Europe, and might see this
thread.
He's currently posting from the Black Sea area in Europe, and might see this
thread.
Vlad
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My engine was rebuilt by R&D in Eccles Manchester...the guys who own the company were originally Stratton mechanics back in the day and still have all of the tools to help rebuild the 32v's
I had a number of parts missing off of my engine, such as timing cogs and various other bits but they managed to get them copied from the left hand bank. They also sourced new valves, oil seals etc.
Great guys to deal with.
I had a number of parts missing off of my engine, such as timing cogs and various other bits but they managed to get them copied from the left hand bank. They also sourced new valves, oil seals etc.
Great guys to deal with.
