Dieselman
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Was he breaking the 70mph limit..
Was he breaking the 70mph limit..
Carrotchomper
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Momentarily, I expect. Downwards.
barryj
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There are no speed cameras on the Severn bridge, well if they are they are pretty crap as I have never had a ticket!
Donza
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When i bought a brand new Audi A4 in 2001 (new shape). I parked it outside my grandmothers house.
The house my family and i grew up in when we were little. The area had become a cesspit since my family had left and ventured north.
Anyhow, i was very apprehensive about leaving a gleaming brand new A4 outside in the street. Especially so, when every other car was worth less than 1000 pounds etc.
When i awoke the nexy morning, i looked out the window on impulse. And i remember a young guy sitting in a red escort xr3i opposite my car. He was looking at my car and looking around.
I got up and bolted downstairs. The car sped off. I took one look at my brand new car and my heart sank. The ******* had keyed every panel on my one week old car.
I went crazy and pretty much lost it. I was furious.
My grandmother tells me that that incident alone made her mind up about moving to a nicer, more suitable area.
The very next day she moved to a much beeter house/area.
I will never forget that day. Animals..
Against my better judgement and because i had travelled 250 miles i had no choice to park it outside. Little did i know the area had become such a craphole in the space of a year.
The house my family and i grew up in when we were little. The area had become a cesspit since my family had left and ventured north.
Anyhow, i was very apprehensive about leaving a gleaming brand new A4 outside in the street. Especially so, when every other car was worth less than 1000 pounds etc.
When i awoke the nexy morning, i looked out the window on impulse. And i remember a young guy sitting in a red escort xr3i opposite my car. He was looking at my car and looking around.
I got up and bolted downstairs. The car sped off. I took one look at my brand new car and my heart sank. The ******* had keyed every panel on my one week old car.
I went crazy and pretty much lost it. I was furious.
My grandmother tells me that that incident alone made her mind up about moving to a nicer, more suitable area.
The very next day she moved to a much beeter house/area.
I will never forget that day. Animals..
Against my better judgement and because i had travelled 250 miles i had no choice to park it outside. Little did i know the area had become such a craphole in the space of a year.
chriswt
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My guessing that the whole sale/purchase proceedure when moving to a Beeter house is alot quicker than a conventional house
barryj
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The very next day she moved to a much beeter house/area.
I will never forget that day. Animals..
She moved house the very next day? Can I have the name of her solicitor?
Donza
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meant to be nextyear not day!!!
recycled
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who said anything about the severn bridge.
like the m4 starts and ends in south wales.
Thanks for admitting you do break the limit on the severn bridge anyway
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xpc316e
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As for the figures I quoted earlier about 10 people per day on average being killed on our roads, I stand by them. An odd rogue statistic, such as the cyclist who falls off his bike and cracks his head open, might be included but this would be very rare. I am a former Traffic Police Officer who now works as a Road Safety Officer for a county council, and I can assure you that most agencies will, if anything, be trying to massage the figures DOWN in order to prove how effective they are in their Government-dictated task.
I speak from experience as the husband whose wife was seriously injured in a crash, and as the victim of a burglary - guess what, I'd rather be burgled again any day of the week. A burglary, or for that matter a vandalised car, is a PITA - but after an insurance claim is soon forgotten in most cases. Living with constant pain, reduced mobility, lost limbs etc., after a crash is not a lot of fun.
Those folk whose cars were scratched have my sympathy, and as a former copper I'd love to have arrested those responsible, but let's get policing into perspective. Cars can be lethal weapons, and as such their use needs to be tightly policed unless, and until, drivers learn to obey speed limits which are there for the good of everybody - not just to inconvenience them as they often selfishly think.
I speak from experience as the husband whose wife was seriously injured in a crash, and as the victim of a burglary - guess what, I'd rather be burgled again any day of the week. A burglary, or for that matter a vandalised car, is a PITA - but after an insurance claim is soon forgotten in most cases. Living with constant pain, reduced mobility, lost limbs etc., after a crash is not a lot of fun.
Those folk whose cars were scratched have my sympathy, and as a former copper I'd love to have arrested those responsible, but let's get policing into perspective. Cars can be lethal weapons, and as such their use needs to be tightly policed unless, and until, drivers learn to obey speed limits which are there for the good of everybody - not just to inconvenience them as they often selfishly think.
recycled
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Typical. (yawn).
cars,cars, cars, . i guess burglars do not kill or injure people. they just come and go peacefully.Keep figures down? i wonder how they will ever be able to claim funds for their effective policies.
A burglary will be soon forgotten, not if your family member is dead.A car crash is soon forgotten (probably) as i have forgotten three of mine which happened while i was stone dead stationery and had nothing to do with speed.
Get police into perspective is to go after cars, cars and cars.
Well swiss toni, here is your answer, a former traffic cop has spoken.
They are not after drivers at all.
My co-worker across me has his wife paralysed for life in a car crash. only it had nothing to do with speed, he was t- boned while making a 3 point turn. i guess that is good enough for a speed camera then,.
cars,cars, cars, . i guess burglars do not kill or injure people. they just come and go peacefully.Keep figures down? i wonder how they will ever be able to claim funds for their effective policies.
A burglary will be soon forgotten, not if your family member is dead.A car crash is soon forgotten (probably) as i have forgotten three of mine which happened while i was stone dead stationery and had nothing to do with speed.
Get police into perspective is to go after cars, cars and cars.
Well swiss toni, here is your answer, a former traffic cop has spoken.
They are not after drivers at all.
My co-worker across me has his wife paralysed for life in a car crash. only it had nothing to do with speed, he was t- boned while making a 3 point turn. i guess that is good enough for a speed camera then,.
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recycled
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By all means police the traffic and cars, but police the other aspects of life, assault ,burglary,shoplifting, e.t.c with just as much pace and passion.
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chriswt
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So there were no police around and speed cameras were useless in determining the cause of the accident which would see the victim compensated so another technique is used to find the truth:
http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=49636
and of course we all start moaning about that as well!
Personally I'd like to see speeding and dangerous driving tackled in our towns and residential areas.
However, with the amount of driving I do each year I see an alarming amount of bad driving, made all the worse when performed at high speed and I'd rather drive on roads where other drivers are conscious of their speed than on roads where poor/inconsiderate drivers are allowed to judge their own speed*
*Please use this statement as a morsel of food for thought to add to the speed camera debate pot rather than a rigid opinion from a forum user how can’t appreciate the other views expressed!
st4
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What happened to those cars was criminal damage. It could have been the case that the hooligans that did this threw bricks through house windows, spray painted houses etc.
I envisige a time when Neighbourhoods will have to hire security gaurds that patrol the streets/grounds of properties to protect what is rightfully theres. If the police can't protect you and your property, hire a dedicated agency that can.
Whilst its not a life threatning crime, neither is speeding in the majority of cases, driver inattention much more so. Yes a car can kill, but so can a hoodied yob with some buckfast inside him.
If these houses got broken into, the burglers probably won't have gone peacefully. I doubt if the owners have confronted the vandals, they would have said "I am terribly sorry for scalpelling your car, send me a bill of the damage". Tehy'd have scalped the owner, remember Mr Newlove.
Cars and their respectable owners are an easy target for police to "police". Yobs with knives, much less so. The police might actually have to get their hands dirty, rather than sit in a van and watch the money in £60 denominations come in.
I envisige a time when Neighbourhoods will have to hire security gaurds that patrol the streets/grounds of properties to protect what is rightfully theres. If the police can't protect you and your property, hire a dedicated agency that can.
Whilst its not a life threatning crime, neither is speeding in the majority of cases, driver inattention much more so. Yes a car can kill, but so can a hoodied yob with some buckfast inside him.
If these houses got broken into, the burglers probably won't have gone peacefully. I doubt if the owners have confronted the vandals, they would have said "I am terribly sorry for scalpelling your car, send me a bill of the damage". Tehy'd have scalped the owner, remember Mr Newlove.
Cars and their respectable owners are an easy target for police to "police". Yobs with knives, much less so. The police might actually have to get their hands dirty, rather than sit in a van and watch the money in £60 denominations come in.
prprandall51
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Hmm, to be paralysed for life by being T-boned indicates one of four possible scenarios:
Your colleague performed the manoeuvre in a road where the speed limit was 50mph or more and did so right in front of the other car
Your colleague performed the manoeuvre in a 30/40 limit whilst driving a car made of tissue paper (the impact at 30mph shouldn't have been that severe in any reasonably modern car)
The driver was exceeding the speed limit by some margin.
I wonder which is the most likely....? Are you sure excess speed wasn't a factor?
st4
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They could have been unlucky, some accidents at low speeds can have bad consequences just by the way the cars lands (if it rolls or lifts off the ground), impact zone, rate of decelleration after landing. In the case of the 3pt turn it could have been hit once, then pushed into the path of another car recieving another impact.
The Human body isn't designed to travel more than running speed, so unless speed limits are 10mph everywhere in a car crash you will always be travelling too fast.
The Human body isn't designed to travel more than running speed, so unless speed limits are 10mph everywhere in a car crash you will always be travelling too fast.
Cars can be lethal weapons, and as such their use needs to be tightly policed unless, and until, drivers learn to obey speed limits which are there for the good of everybody
This is too simplistic.
I am in favour of appropriate speed limits. In housing estates near to schools I would like to see 20mph limits and to see them enforced.
However, there are many speed limits which are inappropriate and these bring all speed limits into disrepute. Enforcement of inappropriate speed limits also brings into disrepute the police and camera organisations which carry out the enforcement.
Drink driving reduced because it came to be viewed by the public as unacceptable behaviour. The government wants speeding to be viewed as unacceptable. If this is to happen the public must see the speed limits as reasonable and enforcement to be fair.
This is too simplistic.
I am in favour of appropriate speed limits. In housing estates near to schools I would like to see 20mph limits and to see them enforced.
However, there are many speed limits which are inappropriate and these bring all speed limits into disrepute. Enforcement of inappropriate speed limits also brings into disrepute the police and camera organisations which carry out the enforcement.
Drink driving reduced because it came to be viewed by the public as unacceptable behaviour. The government wants speeding to be viewed as unacceptable. If this is to happen the public must see the speed limits as reasonable and enforcement to be fair.
recycled
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60mph road. in a 95 cavalier. got t- boned by a ford driven by an OAP. not speeding at all according to the crash detectives that measure skids and a few witnesses
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recycled
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Is it possible to just issue points for offending drivers rather than the fine? this is what makes people think it is about the cash. Well i guess the cameras must be funded somehow.
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