C43 & C63 prices?

[bobby]

Hello chaps,

I've been out of the game a while, so wondering how C43 prices are doing on the 2nd hand market at the moment?

I've got a 99 C43 with 82K on the clock FMBSH and no expense spared. Ideas as to what I could put it on for? Or what MB would give in p/x (I'm guessing not a lot!)

Secondly, anyone got any current intel on what dealers are selling C63s at in this market? I'm going in to Merc on Saturday so would like to know the answers to these 2 in advance.

After lusting after a '63 for so long, and inspired by MW_C32 and scumbag, I'm going to at least go and do the figures and see if it could work...

 

[500E]

Current C43 prices are not really strong tbh (depending on your particular one), but if you decided to sell up, your looking at £6k tops. Quite a few have been on the market and I guess those that have sold, sold at a substantially less price that advertised. The market for older big engined cars is very poor at the moment.

What is the colour combo of your C43. 82K miles with FSH is a good factor as most seem to be over the 100k mark. You could try at £6.5k and see what happens. Immaculate E55's can be had at the £7k mark and going above that goes into the CLK55 range etc.

I've dug up a few C43's for you to see the market:

Mercedes : 1998 Mercedes C43 AMG
Mercedes : Mercedes C43 AMG
Mercedes : C43 AMG 1998 (REDUCED)
Mercedes : c43 amg
Mercedes : Mercedes C43 AMG Designo-Varicolor (Blue/Green)
Mercedes : 1999 V MERCEDES C43 AMG AUTO 4DR

Being a 99 model, I take it your vehicle does not have the tiptronic gearbox. Silver is the most common colour and designos can demand slighly more.

Any evidence of gearbox work or oil changes is a plus as this is the weak point of the C43AMG. Not forgetting rust which will put buyers off!

In regards to C63AMG prices, I have no ideas, but i'd love to have one!

Hope this helps.

 

[MarkCL]

Hi Bobby - well having just had my own C43 written off by the insurance assessors they don't seem to value these cars as the appreciating (as opposed to depreciating!) asset that they are. The C43's are getting rarer and rarer, especially for good ones

As far as p-ex is concerned you'll be lucky to see £4k I think - sad but true. Much better off with a private sale and for your car push the boat out and ask for £7250. Unfortunately you'll be more likely to be lucky to see £6500

As for the C63's, have a look at Pistonheads as there are a fair few on there - all seem to be the thick end of £48k+

Good luck whatever you end up doing - me, I'm looking to try a CLK55 now as I want to try something different rather than start from scratch again with a C43 bringing it up to the standard mine was before it got totalled.

Word of warning to all C36 & C43 owners - look in to an agreed value policy for your pride & joy otherwise you may be in for a nasty shock when it comes time to deal with the unthinkable as I have

Cheers,
Mark

 

[Will]

To be honest, I think C43s bottomed out about a year ago at around £4k for high mileage/tatty/rusty ones. People have realised what bargains they are and the difference now between a good car and an average example seems to be wider than ever.

Most of the cheapest cars will have outstanding faults - non-working air con, tatty/non original wheels, worn discs/tyres, rust etc. Where as a cherished car will have gleaming bodywork, FMBSH and look/drive like a newish car.

Bearing this in mind, if I had a good example I would quite rightly want a fair bit more than an average car. As said, they're fairly rare cars, and in good condition certainly more so. It's worth paying more for a nice one as you'd probably spend more than the difference trying to bring a tatty one up to scratch.

Will

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Unfortunately most MB dealers are unlikely to sell the C43 on the forecourt, and it will either be passed on to trader buyers if any are interested, or if not then it will be auctioned. As a result they'll offer you little as possible as it's not in their interests to take the car - unless they can steal it from you with an insanely low P/X price.

Specialist cars such as the C43 are probably best sold privately with a well written advert on specialist websites/forums, plus the usual ebay, Pistonheads, and Autotrader. You'll of course have the inconvenience of selling it, but you may get a little more for the car in return.

With regards to C63 prices, used prices seem to have eased themselve upwards a little of late. I'd try phoning around a few dealers - if you ask whether they have any unsold stock then you may be able to get a deal.

Of course the usual rules apply. If the paintwork is black and you wanted black, remember to say you wanted white. If the leather is grey and you wanted greay, remember to say you wanted beige. If the car has COMAND and you wanted COMAND, remember to say you have a TomTom you will use. Etc.

 

[mw_C32]

Good luck,

I cant help but feel that the worst/best time to get a C63 has passed. I think (and maybe I am biased) that due to the lack of availability these cars are becoming more in demand and prices have risen slightly.

There always seems to be about 12-15 on the trader but weather they are actual cars I don't know.

That said you should get a good deal if you have a salesman that wants to do business.

I'm still thinking of going for an R8 as these have come down a lot recently perhaps due to the new V10. But I still love the C63 too much!!!

Mark.

 

[bobby]

Will:

I know Peter was looking for circa £9k for his. I'm thinking (this is the head talking) that I have at least a year (if not 2) left in the '43. I have spent silly money on this car (my fault I know).

My car, AndyC43s and Peter (C43AMG) are pretty much the only 43s with all the optic updates which (IMHO) bring the car up to date on looks.

I'll go and see what Merc say but I guess I would be happy at £10K for mine and £45K for a brand new '63. Both figures are probably unrealistic and that would then send me back in my box for another year or 2! I know the '63 will be £20k-odd in 3 years so the clever ones will wait 'till then...and yet... (this is the heart talking) life is short!

 

[bobby]

MarkCL - sorry to hear about your car - always sad to hear of another '43 going up to that test track in the sky

 

[C240Sport97]

I'll go and see what Merc say but I guess I would be happy at £10K for mine and £45K for a brand new '63. Both figures are probably unrealistic

you can but try ... it's only £10k off you are asking for

 

[bobby]

I've dug up a few C43's for you to see the market:

Mercedes : 1998 Mercedes C43 AMG
Mercedes : Mercedes C43 AMG
Mercedes : C43 AMG 1998 (REDUCED)
Mercedes : c43 amg
Mercedes : Mercedes C43 AMG Designo-Varicolor (Blue/Green)
Mercedes : 1999 V MERCEDES C43 AMG AUTO 4DR

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Wow the '43 seems to be unloved! Looks like most cars are going for £4-£6k. Its probably worth holding on to it at those prices... which means I'd have to put the whole thing off for a while until I have a lock-up or a drive... Ah well, I'll still go and check out the dealer on Sat.

 

[MarkCL]

Will:I know Peter was looking for circa £9k for his.

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I guess I would be happy at £10K for mine

Unfortunately I don't think you'll get anywhere close to that, any more than Peter would get £9k for his. It's a sad state of affairs I know but the cars are only worth what someone will pay and unfortunately that's not as much as we'd like to think at the moment.

Mine was at the stage where mechanically it was 100% and I was just about to embark on sorting the few cosmetic bits that needed looking at on mine (slight rust on the arches, avantgarde grille etc) but I never got the chance :-( The insurance assessor started off offering me just £5500 for mine despite the fact that over the past two years Olly at PCS has done about £3k's worth of work to it sorting out every worn or dodgy bit, even up to a brand new AMG diff just a month or so ago! They seem to be sticking at £6k now as far as the offer is concerned and while I'll have another go at pushing that up to what I feel is a more fair number I'm not hopeful.

You're right though - life is short, hence why I'll try a CLK55 for a year or two before picking up a C55/63/whatever. Bear what I said about agreed value policies for yours though just to be on the safe side.

Cheers,
Mark

 

[andy27168]

Hi Mark,
Sorry to hear of your 43's demise, just as you were getting all up together.

 

[MarkCL]

Hi Andy - thanks for the condolences, I think you probably know how I feel after the amount of work you've done on yours. Just hopeful that what I get to replace it manages to live up to the high standards of satisfation etc that my C43 set. I'm hopeful though - trying to see the silver lining in the clouds at the mo though...

Cheers,
Mark

 

[C43AMG]

Marc very sorry to hear of your cars demise,(What happened) especially after all that money you spent on it. I know how much you liked the C4

 

[MarkCL]

Marc very sorry to hear of your cars demise,(What happened) especially after all that money you spent on it. I know how much you liked the C43

Hi Peter - essentially everyone's worst nightmare I think. I was on holiday up in Cumbria & having a lovely time, on the third day of my hols we were out & about, I stopped behind someone who had stopped to enter a car park across the way but the idiot who'd been almost tailgating me all the way through the kirkstone pass wasn't paying attention & was driving too fast with not enough braking distance between us just piled right in to the back of me at about 20-30mph, didn't even try to stop. Pushed me in to collision with the stopped car in front and therefore I ended up with damage to both front & back of mine

He said he didn't see me brake/my lights, I know he was just driving like a pr1ck. Insurance assessor reckoned over £6k to fix mine so decided to write it off. Needed a new bumper front & back, new bonnet, new boot lid + associated body work to sort out a stoved in drivers side rear wing and 3-4 inches of rear crumple that may have affected the boot floor

Overall I was (and still am!) fuming about it all. Copper on the scene said they would be prosecuting the kn0b who hit me and caused it all for driving without due care & attention - not that it will help me really. Just dealing with all the insurance hassle now and having to sort out buying a replacement car. Not willing to spend another 2 years bringing another C43 up to the condition mine was so think I'll try a CLK55 for a year or two Got my eye on one at the mo, just fingers crossed it turns out to be a good 'un.

Main thing I learned from all this is that if you have an older car like our C43's (& C36's), you're better off with an agreed value policy in case of situations like this as it seems like the only way to get a decent payout if a worst case scenario happens and the car gets written off.

Hey ho - life goes on

Cheers,
Mark

 

[bobby]

Main thing I learned from all this is that if you have an older car like our C43's (& C36's), you're better off with an agreed value policy in case of situations like this as it seems like the only way to get a decent payout if a worst case scenario happens and the car gets written off.

Hey ho - life goes on

Cheers,
Mark

Sorry once again on your car - I'll be talking to my insurers as I would rather have the value agreed in advance of an issue!

 

[bobby]

...and on the C63 side I just don;t think I can let my car go at £6k or less. The hours that I (and Andy27168!) have put in to get the car to "facelift" spec (W210 mirrors, vanity lights, DRVM, etc) just don't seem to make it worthwhile to sell it!

I'll have to get one when I have a drive/ garage/ significant other (who could then use the 43!)...

 

[et0609]

When I bought my car in May I had seriously considered a C63 but prices were still over £40k for a decent one with the extras you'd want.

However, I found one on Autotrader a few weeks ago advertised at £36k which I thought was a good price. 6k miles with COMAND, memory seats, black with the 19" alloys.

It didnt hang around for long though, a day or two later it had gone.

My plan is to wait another year or two and then look into it again, I would hope there may be a better choice and some lower prices by then, but they way things are just now, I doubt it.

I think those with the money to buy a C63 dont have a huge choice and its keeping prices high.