Clarksons award on TV

[Gollom]

Not only is it testament to the country we live in that we can have this dicussion but the forum that we belong to. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is the best forum I've ever come across...with the best members!!!

You being ironic? Is that an insult? Calling my lawyer right now! LOL

:bannana: :bannana: :bannana:

 

[Rose Chap]

Where does your 4.4 litre V8 BMW fit into this green world then Christwt?

 

[chriswt]

My asian friend jokes about Indian mothers always trying to marry daughters off to a professional (doctor etc.) She is very funny about it, but it is still a stereotype. If I joked about it would it then be less funny? Insulting?

Discuss....

Why can't you joke about that? it is funny and it's not insulting surely.

Most mothers wish their children to do well or be comfortable in life and there are historical reason why alot of Indians area doctors not to mention that they work and study bl00dy hard.

We all need sterotpyes in life or we'd be a sad boring nation. The efficiency of zie Germans is a sterotype but hardly a bad one.

P.S can we have a larger selection of smilies please because stupid people like me can't write a post without making it sould like something it isn't!

May be I need some writing advice from the MBClub old duffers - (you know who you are) - because they do it so well!!

 

[chriswt]

Where does your 4.4 litre V8 BMW fit into this green world then Christwt?

Its the greener 4.0 version!

 

[Gollom]

Why can't you joke about that? it is funny and it's not insulting surely.

Most mothers wish their children to do well or be comfortable in life and there are historical reason why alot of Indians area doctors not to mention that they work and study bl00dy hard.

We all need sterotpyes in life or we'd be a sad boring nation. The efficiency of zie Germans is a sterotype but hardly a bad one.

P.S can we have a larger selection of smilies please because stupid people like me can't write a post without making it sould like something it isn't!

May be I need some writing advice from the MBClub old duffers - (you know who you are) - because they do it so well!!

And that is my point. Just because it could be viewed as a stereotype why should it be insulting

Another: Guy in our office stood there with one leg bent at the knee and his hips thrust forward. Someone said he looked a bit gay. Was that an insult to him and to gay people? No way was it even remotely intended in that way! And the person who laughed the loudest? Yup, a guy who just happens to be gay.

NB: Now worried that I am going to get abuse for using the word gay

 

[chriswt]

And that is my point. Just because it could be viewed as a stereotype why should it be insulting

Another: Guy in our office stood there with one leg bent at the knee and his hips thrust forward. Someone said he looked a bit gay. Was that an insult to him and to gay people? No way was it even remotely intended in that way! And the person who laughed the loudest? Yup, a guy who just happens to be gay.

NB: Now worried that I am going to get abuse for using the word gay

Oh b*lls am I coming across like a pro-PC pain in the ar$e.

I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. If however you didn't like the guy in your office and so decided to call him 'gay' in the hope that people would laugh at him then it isn't right.

I was at a family xmas party a few years ago and my aunty and run out of chairs for people to sit on. So she asked my cousin where the pouf was. He replied "in the kitchen" where my gay relative was.

 

[Gollom]

Oh b*lls am I coming across like a pro-PC pain in the ar$e.

I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. If however you didn't the guy in your office and so decided to call him 'gay' in the hope that people would laugh at him then it isn't right.

I was at a family xmas party a few years ago and my aunty and run out of chairs for people to sit on. So she asked my cousin where the pouf was. He replied "in the kitchen" where my other gay relative was.

Didn't mean that at all Chris - we seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet! Just goes to show how the blank word can be viewed in so many ways! Maybe we need an Ironic smile?

 

[chriswt]

Didn't mean that at all Chris

What bit didn't you mean?

I think we need a 'friendly question' smilie too because the only one there has a sad face. May be the Banana called him a "gay"!

 

[glojo]

I sometimes wonder what gives us the right to criticise humour and who should tell us what is funny. If something makes me laugh then why should I feel embarrassed or pretend it's not funny. surely humour will sometimes stereo type a certain race, class, sex, size, colour.... whatever. Who gave someone the right to tell me something is offensive. I love 1960's 1970's TV comedy programs but the folks that starred in them would be locked up if they said those same things in todays age of political correctness. Are You Being Served had a great homosexual actor that played a part that exaggerated his sexuality. It was brilliant comedy and certainly not offensive. Steptoe and son, the list is endless but now we have to pretend that these types of program are unacceptable. To me the lunatics are indeed ruling the asylum especially as there is one message on this thread with great big long words that I can't even understand

what will Chalkie White have to say about it?

Regards John the PC policeman

 

[chriswt]

I don't think anyone is telling us when we can and can't laugh. Plenty of people still laugh at Bernard Manning and his DVD's, books etc are freely available but having him on TV as a form of entertainment is probably not the best idea as peoples views have changed mainly for the better.

 

[glojo]

I don't think anyone is telling us when we can and can't laugh. Plenty of people still laugh at Bernard Manning and his DVD's, books etc are freely available but having him on TV as a form of entertainment is probably not the best idea as peoples views have changed mainly for the better.

I rest my case

John

 

[chriswt]

I rest my case

John

There are so many variables to this subject that none of us are going to come up with the ultimate answer because it isn’t black or white**. Its all comes down to a bit of common sense, knowing what’s actually right and wrong and laughing at what the f**k you like too behind closed doors .

** sorry that should be grey & off-white.

 

[glojo]

There are so many variables to this subject that none of us are going to come up with the ultimate answer because it isn’t black or white**. Its all comes down to a bit of common sense, knowing what’s actually right and wrong and laughing at what the f**k you like too behind closed doors .

** sorry that should be grey & off-white.

Why?

Why should I be ashamed of laughing at Top Gear, why should it be viewed behind 'closed doors'?

Are You Being Served, It aint Half Hot Mum were great comdey but should these programs that highlighted homosexuals, or Indian tea boys now only be seen behind closed doors, or do people now know better and not watch such rubbish?

For those that are politically correct please do not click here

Here in Torquay the cross was removed from the cremertorium in case it might cause offence. A wooden cross that had been in situ for thirty years and no one had EVER complained, but it might have caused offence.

John

 

[chriswt]

Why?

Why should I be ashamed of laughing at Top Gear, why should it be viewed behind 'closed doors'?

Are You Being Served, It aint Half Hot Mum were great comdey but should these programs that highlighted homosexuals, or Indian tea boys now only be seen behind closed doors, or do people now know better and not watch such rubbish?

For those that are politically correct please do not click here

Here in Torquay the cross was removed from the cremertorium in case it might cause offence. A wooden cross that had been in situ for thirty years and no one had EVER complained, but it might have caused offence.

John

You make some very good points and I completely understand where you're coming from but who's saying you should be ashamed of laughing at TG, it's only a few infrequent comments made by JC that have been commented on.

If you'd turned on the TV tonight you'd find a load of decent comedy IMO (have I got news for you, QI, Armstrong and Miller). Comedy moves with the times....no....it actual often moves the times forward!

It ain't half hot mum, Are you being served etc etc still remain classics but that's not to say that comedy today is all PC coz it certainly isn't. Telly audiences have changed over the years as the UK population as changed and so comedy has to change.

Classic cars are fantastic and still give enjoyment but now we like to have cars with airbags and ABS however, it doesn't make them slower or boring. Comedy changes in the same kinda way (or I've had too much Sauvignon Blanc tonight).

I'm afraid the removal of the cross is pathetic and I am 100% with you on that one. I can't stand the PC world either but its not as bad as everyone thinks. If we didn't have the PC brigade we wouldn't have anything to laugh at!!

 

[glojo]

If you'd turned on the TV tonight you'd find a load of decent comedy IMO (have I got news for you, QI, Armstrong and Miller). Comedy moves with the times....no....it actual often moves the times forward!

I agree with all your excellent points and if you see my list of 'Must Watch' programs some of your suggestions are there but will these programs be criticised in a few years time as being politically incorrect and does that then criticise thoose that watched them. As a very young child I can recall my parents watching the Black and White Minstrel Show. This was allegedly an extremely popular program but now it is a huge no, no and shame on anyone that dare to say it was good or entertaining. I agree with everything you say but just feel this politically correct dictating is wrong.

For those that have never heard of this show then here is a link and here's a picture

regards
John

 

[Dryce]

It ain't half hot mum, Are you being served etc etc still remain classics but that's not to say that comedy today is all PC coz it certainly isn't. Telly audiences have changed over the years as the UK population as changed and so comedy has to change.

Maybe telly people are telling the audiences what is good and bad.

I can remember a fairly poor comdy called 'Mind your language' which today's TV people will slag off and say was offensive.

However I have been asked several times by people in the far east whether or not it is still on TV here and how they miss it.

So sometimes we set ourselves up to be just as prejudiced in what we think other people will find offensive.

 

[andy_k]

I only eat 'ethically produced' meat, I recycle, am conscious of excess packaging, wasting water/electricity and try to be socially responsible as possible.

sounds a bit "gay" to me






Andy

 

[andy_k]

other comedy classics which would never be made today

Till Death Us Do Part
Love thy Neighbour
Rising Damp
Porridge


there's more but whether or not we are supposed to laugh at them most of them are (with the exception of love thy neighbour which was offensive even then )funny

 

[glojo]

To highlight how acceptable standards have changed the programs listed by Andy would definitely not be allowed to be shown in our modern politically correct age but the likes of Joe Brand with her vulgar jokes appears to be perfectly okay, but no way would they have been allowed when these other programs were at their height! Madness.

Alf Garnett was not to my particular taste but he was a popular actor and his programs were well supported. Strange how the woirds he used are now perhaps deemed arrestable but they are acceptable when used by Rap singers (tactfully worded for the PC brigade)

Regards
John

 

[glojo]

Talking of, 'Have I Got News For You' Did anyone else pick up on the Viscount Linley connection?

If you never then ask Ian Hislop about it?

Nudge, nudge, wink wink

John