Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Larkone]

Aren’t you racing against the clock?

How do you beat a clock? That's the difference, you are riding to achieve/improve a time

 

[Darrell]

How do you beat a clock?

Who mentioned beating a clock?
See post #59

 

[Larkone]

@Darrell I saw post #59 and it is basically wrong - you do not race against a clock, you set a time.

As Abe Lincoln said - Do not believe everything you read on the internet

 

[E55BOF]

....this must be coupled with an efficient and affordable public transport system....investing in public transport infrastructure costs billions and takes years...

There's the rub...

 

[ALFAitalia]

..........this must be coupled with an efficient and affordable public transport system.

And people still wont use it.....anyone thinking they will has not thought it through. It only works if you live in a big city with buses and trains every few minutes and you don't leave it much....otherwise its not a choice for most.

I want my transport to leave and arrive exactly when I want it to. I want to be able to go somewhere on the spur of the moment without planning/booking, I want to listen to my music/radio as loud/quiet as I want, I want the temperature that I want, I want to travel door to door without having to either walk miles or leave the car a the bus/train station to be vandalised, I don't want some stinky, ill mannered swearing bloke sat next to me with headphones too loud, and I want a seat EVERY trip.....and the ONLY way to achieve this is by enclosed personal transport.....that's a car to me and you!

The village I used to live in had one bus.....PER WEEK!!...and no train station within 6 miles. Cars were/are the ONLY option.

 

[markjay]

...I want my transport to leave and arrive exactly when I want it to. I want to be able to go somewhere on the spur of the moment without planning/booking, I want to listen to my music/radio as loud/quiet as I want, I want the temperature that I want, I want to travel door to door without having to either walk miles or leave the car a the bus/train station to be vandalised, I don't want some stinky, ill mannered swearing bloke sat next to me with headphones too loud, and I want a seat EVERY trip.....and the ONLY way to achieve this is by enclosed personal transport.....that's a car to me and you!...

And I want to live in a big house in a warmer climate with lots of servants.... but (sadly for some) the days of Colonialism have long gone

Seriously, we all need to change our transport habits. The idea of thousands of people, each in its own large metal box, all trying to get into the city centre at the same time is just not sustainable. It may sound very convenient at the individual level, but it just does not work as a collective.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

And people still wont use it.....anyone thinking they will has not thought it through. It only works if you live in a big city with buses and trains every few minutes and you don't leave it much....otherwise its not a choice for most.

I want my transport to leave and arrive exactly when I want it to. I want to be able to go somewhere on the spur of the moment without planning/booking, I want to listen to my music/radio as loud/quiet as I want, I want the temperature that I want, I want to travel door to door without having to either walk miles or leave the car a the bus/train station to be vandalised, I don't want some stinky, ill mannered swearing bloke sat next to me with headphones too loud, and I want a seat EVERY trip.....and the ONLY way to achieve this is by enclosed personal transport.....that's a car to me and you!

The village I used to live in had one bus.....PER WEEK!!...and no train station within 6 miles. Cars were/are the ONLY option.

I have to agree. I spent a few years using public transport to get into London and back home and it was the most unpleasant time I’ve ever experienced travelling on public transport, second only to when I lived in Tokyo for a few years (however the trains were clean and always on time - but the over crowding was unbearable).

The supposed concept of English gentlemen goes out the window and some of the worst behaviour I noticed was from people you'd never expect it from. Posh gents in smart suits. Selfish - leaving bags on seats, not offering women their seat (I didn't if it was a young woman) but older women, preggo etc no problem, loud on their phones in “no phones” carriages etc. They'd elbow their mother out of the way to make sure they got a seat.

 

[Tonye]

Selfish - leaving bags on seats,

Just pick it up and politely say yours i believe as you drop it on their lap and promptly let the old dear sit down. If no old dear is available its yours

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Just pick it up and politely say yours i believe as you drop it on their lap and promptly let the old dear sit down. If no old dear is available its yours

Oh no, I was never that polite. I’d ask “Have you got a ticket for the seat that bag is occupying?”.

 

[Darrell]

I’ve commuted into central London using Thameslink on and off for donkeys years (since 1983) and would say I’ve never had any real problems.

I’d sooner be on the train with a newspaper and a tea sitting in a reasonably comfortable seat.

Mill Hill Broadway to St Pancras - 18 minutes.
Car - 45 minutes.
On my bicycle - 30 minutes.
No brainer.

 

[ALFAitalia]

Just not practical where I live....take me almost as long to drive to the station in town as it does to drive the 12 cross country miles to my work.....and then the nearest station to work is over a mile away. I'm sure most on here quoting the benefits of public transport live in cities or big towns......not in rural villages and small market towns....Even if I wanted to lower myself to use public transport and go on the various "loser cruisers" with all the great unwashed, it's just not a realistic or practical option for me. Would take way longer than driving too. I'm sure if I lived I London or some some other conurbation with lots of transport links and roads jammed solid with cars I might think differently.....but I don't.

 

[Darrell]

Just not practical where I live

“Even if I wanted to lower myself to use public transport and go on the various "loser cruisers" with all the great unwashed”

Please remain in your hick village.

 

[Darrell]

Just not practical where I live....take me almost as long to drive to the station in town as it does to drive the 12 cross country miles to my work.....and then the nearest station to work is over a mile away. I'm sure most on here quoting the benefits of public transport live in cities or big towns......not in rural villages and small market towns....Even if I wanted to lower myself to use public transport and go on the various "loser cruisers" with all the great unwashed, it's just not a realistic or practical option for me. Would take way longer than driving too. I'm sure if I lived I London or some some other conurbation with lots of transport links and roads jammed solid with cars I might think differently.....but I don't.

I think you’re a bit confused.

 

[ToeKnee]

The simple answer is to ban all cars everywhere and just use taxis.......

 

[markjay]

To those who argue that public transport isn't a viable option in rural areas, my point was that:

...busy city centres should be made less welcoming to private cars, though this must be coupled with an efficient and affordable public transport system....

Everywhere else, i.e. outside of busy city centres, people can continue and do whatever it is that they do today....

 

[m80]

The simple answer is to ban all cars everywhere and just use taxis.......

I guess they would be rickshaws, to reduce pollution.
Otherwise what's the difference?

 

[Tonye]

Sooooo glad to be moving onto our 60ft narrow boat soon, car stored at marina ready for the France trip, and fold up leci bike in the well deck for leisurely rides on the toll path for shopping. Only 20mins to shops by boat (running on red of course) for the big shop.

 

[GrahamT]

The simple answer is to ban all cars everywhere and just use taxis.......

Around here all taxis are saloon cars....

 

[ToeKnee]

I guess they would be rickshaws, to reduce pollution.
Otherwise what's the difference?

The difference is, I drive a taxi

 

[ToeKnee]

Around here all taxis are saloon cars....

The taxis may be saloons, but, according to the law, they are not cars. They're hackney carriages and the laws are different between Hackney's and cars. The flippant point I was trying to make was ban everybody else but I can still drive as I own a hackney carriage. I know, it was a crap comment......