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Dealer swaps my wheels or something

^ Thought it was 3 months, that's what everyone on here says including other dealers?

Also this thread has gone from "Who's changed my wheel?" to "Milage is wrong on health check".

Can we confirm that the wheel was not changed at service/repair time and an apology has been given to said garage or are we just covering this up with the milage thing?
 
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I have seen under the car and indeed the ball joint is new and was changed. That alone proves I got what I paid for: I am probably wrong in my original thought process about a mismatching bill.

Whether it needed done, I will struggle to prove as the other ball joint on the other side of the car looks new as well. Thanks to John for the hospitality, advice, reassurance and guidance + use of your ramps, you are a true gent.

All I need to find out from MB Glasgow is about the mismatching mileage. I will politely raise this tomorrow. The treads on this do suggest a different car, as well, but I got a new ball joint and I paid for one, so I'd rather actually on thinking on it pay for it, as that is what they gave me, and I do not want something for nothing.

As for the tyres, I remain unconvinced but its impossible for me to prove and for them to disprove. I'll ask them to investigate the issue and see what they say.

There are other outstanding issues as well:

1. Not heard back re body work claim.
2. The gearbox jolt is back.

The above two I will raise when I see the manager, and see what they do from there.
 
Can we confirm that the wheel was not changed at service/repair time and an apology has been given to said garage or are we just covering this up with the milage thing?

Having spoken with someone who used to work in a dealership, at a high level, I've been advised whilst possible I will have a job on my hands to prove it.

I am not covering up anything, I will mention the wheel and have them check date stamps to confirm/dispel my theory. I am adamant I had two matching tyres post puncture on that axle, and have been trawling through my pics of the car to try and see if I can prove this one way or another.

Its been in MB Glasgow before the pic where people say that shows an Eagle F1, and was given back with a wheel (either mine or someone elses) minus a wheel centre, whether this was a swap or just my wheel minus a centre I do not know by my gut/memory goes with 2x same tyres on that axle as I paid for: Furthermore I have a receipt for a new good year efficient grip tyre which was fitted to passanger front side of the car. Sadly the bill just says which tyre, and not the side it was fitted to, so MB Glasgow could easily say, that could be fitted to drivers side, and its a case of my word vs. them.


Proving this is nigh on impossible and as its me saying "you've done this" the onus is really on me to prove it, and I cannot. Sadly the days have gone when someones word was enough, and this is the world we live in and I will have to deal with this.

I need to query the mismatching report and mileage thing, but I have paid for a ball joint, and that IS what is there, so I am wrong in saying they have ripped me off, what is there is what was paid for. I do not want to take something needlessly for nothing, I will not be a freeloader.

I will not take my car their again, until I hear of reports of better service (a few in the know have said its gone downhill) so I will not take anything from them to make me go back, as its not my intention now to do so, otherwise to sort out the issues I have. I am not a liar, and will not deceive them into giving me something, unless proven they are wrong, on the basis from more business from me. The failure to fix my gbox fault, confusing me with someone else and them calling the wrong customer IMHO is enough cause for me not to go back.

Back to the ball joint: the onus on whether MY car needed this part is again on me, and minus the old part I am probably not with a good case, although the mileage and treads reported on that report to not tally really to my car, but I can discuss this with them tomorrow. Whether there is a typo on that report, and whether I can prove they looked at the wrong car, again lies with me.

PS, all around the new ball joint is all scuffed and scrapped. The otherside where there is another newish ball joint is ok. They've made a mess of my car there. I'll raise that. And yes, the scuffs are fresh can be proven.
 
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Yes the seller is liable for at least 6 months...

Ive had to replace two alloy wheels this week and I know they werent out of shape when we sold the car..

The seller only has to maintain the customers statutory rights and 6 month is the normal period for the seller to fix faults that develop however the onus is on the buyer to prove the fault was there at purchase, any replacement by the seller is at their own goodwill and is not legislation.

I totally agree on maintaining a good customer experience though and we would happily cover most things, but bent alloy wheels that is a customer taking the P. Think I would have at least asked for a contribution. We definitely would have not swapped a ball joint unless it failed immediately after purchase which would not be likely as anything we have sold has gone out with full MOT
 
How much is a ball joint replacement ?
 
***, Good luck on Monday.

I feel quite sorry for you after some people being d*cks about the wheel incident.

I think you have a good case in regards to your mileage issue.
Remember you can call your local trading standards office if you need help, it is their job to help people with genuine issues and with good evidence like yours (mileage wise) they will most likely back you heavily in your claim for a re-service & healthcheck FOC.
Remember, the last thing the garage wants is a bad reputation with the TS.
Once they have their claws into you they never let go and always remember you.
No business likes them looking over their shoulder so if the garage isn't cooperating with you or disrespect you, just say fine, expect a call from trading standards regarding this issue, walk out and get right on the phone. Just stay calm, don't lose the plot, tell them your next course of action and walk away the bigger man. If you don't feel your going to fly over the table and strangle the guy whose refusing to help, ask him politely to write down his statement and sign it, the more evidence you can give the TS the better although 9 times out of 10 a call from them tends to do the trick.

Good Luck!

Cam

edit : Here's the details for the TS department I imagine will be appropriate :
City of Glasgow Council, Consumer and Trading Standards Division, 231 George Street, Glasgow G1 1RX 0141 287 6681
 
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Could the F1 have come from the back axle ; or could it have been the spare ?

What is in the boot ?
 
Good luck, but don't expect much.

A simple admin error could easily mix your mileage with another car during the healthcheck - these healthchesks aren't much more thana quick glance over of key components, they could be doing 2 or 3 cars at a time, in which case passing a few bits of paper to the admin staff could easily cross wires.

The fact the suspension on the other side looks relatively new suggests that maybe the passenger side was a due renewal (without knowing the age and mileage of your car i'll assume its 4+ yrs and 35k+ miles, and therefore such items will be of a condition that may necessitate replacement).

As to the tyre, unless that wheel is a different date stamp to the others, you aint got a hop in hell - and the evidence suggests that on the last visit the car came back with waht it went in with. Whether it was swapped on a previous visit is unclear, and too long ago now that the dealership nor yourself can prove one way or another.
 
No one seems to have mentioned the Tyre changer being Kwik fit......they don't have the best reputation for being completely straight.
It could be that they didn't have the tyre you wanted, so rather than lose a sale just put on an F1?
 
The problem you have Steve is that in essence the problem is one of process rather than substance. If the wheel or tyre you received in error was defective or unsafe in any way then I think Trading Standards would be interested in the case but otherwise? :dk: I fully sympathise with what you are saying and hope you get the matter resolved but in the bigger picture I'm not sure if the regulatory authorities or MB UK would feel its a priority? :o
 
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No one seems to have mentioned the Tyre changer being Kwik fit......they don't have the best reputation for being completely straight.
It could be that they didn't have the tyre you wanted, so rather than lose a sale just put on an F1?

My money's on this.
 
No one seems to have mentioned the Tyre changer being Kwik fit......they don't have the best reputation for being completely straight.
It could be that they didn't have the tyre you wanted, so rather than lose a sale just put on an F1?
Quite possible. I've had this happen and only noticed when I'd got home and started cleaning off the white cr*p they always seem to leave around the edges! Took the car back, had a big row, but got the correct tyre in the end.. Needless to say haven't used KF since.
 
The seller only has to maintain the customers statutory rights... however the onus is on the buyer to prove the fault was there at purchase, any replacement by the seller is at their own goodwill and is not legislation.

We definitely would have not swapped a ball joint unless it failed immediately after purchase which would not be likely as anything we have sold has gone out with full MOT

Hmm, Flannaia, I thought you ran a garage? In which case, you should really know that the above statements are all incorrect. The buyer has 6 months protection via relevant legislation (see below) not via your goodwill, the onus is on the seller to prove the problem was not there at time of sale (noth the buyer, as you state) and you would be responsible for a ball joint failing within 6 months - the MoT is not relevant.

(This comes from Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002, derived from EU Directive 1999/44/EU which became Clauses 48A to 48F inclusive of the Sale of Goods act in April 2003 ).
 
The above is correct, after 6 months the onus shifts to the buyer.

Of course this doesnt apply to a cheap banger (sub 1K)... its all relative.
 
The above is correct, after 6 months the onus shifts to the buyer.

Of course this doesnt apply to a cheap banger (sub 1K)... its all relative.


Actually EU to the rescue here... under UK law you are right but under EU law you have two years.

Two-year warranty loophole (EU law) | This is Money

Well worth a look if anyone is arguing over a dodgy pixel on their TV or soemthing.

m.
 
You can't reasonably expect a used car to not develop faults for 2 years, you can however reasonably expect a TV/Laptop/brand new car not to!

Kate
 
***, Good luck on Monday.

I feel quite sorry for you after some people being d*cks about the wheel incident.

I think you have a good case in regards to your mileage issue.
Remember you can call your local trading standards office if you need help, it is their job to help people with genuine issues and with good evidence like yours (mileage wise) they will most likely back you heavily in your claim for a re-service & healthcheck FOC.
Remember, the last thing the garage wants is a bad reputation with the TS.
Once they have their claws into you they never let go and always remember you.
No business likes them looking over their shoulder so if the garage isn't cooperating with you or disrespect you, just say fine, expect a call from trading standards regarding this issue, walk out and get right on the phone. Just stay calm, don't lose the plot, tell them your next course of action and walk away the bigger man. If you don't feel your going to fly over the table and strangle the guy whose refusing to help, ask him politely to write down his statement and sign it, the more evidence you can give the TS the better although 9 times out of 10 a call from them tends to do the trick.

Good Luck!

Cam

edit : Here's the details for the TS department I imagine will be appropriate :
City of Glasgow Council, Consumer and Trading Standards Division, 231 George Street, Glasgow G1 1RX 0141 287 6681

The op is the one with the problem, not heard a sorry here and neither will the MB garage me thinks!! Mountain and molehill spring to mind, as many have suggested it's probably a simple typo etc regarding the milage. I think any "goodwill" that you would normally expect to receive, has all but gone with the op's attitude towards them. Just my 2p :)
 

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