E63 whine at high revs

[Rich764089]

There’s also the aircon compressor to consider. If you have a stethoscope, or even a long screwdriver with your ear to the handle, you can touch it on any suspect components and hear if there's a bearing ”singing”.

Thanks Phil and Steve.

Given it's very difficult to get people to listen to the car whilst I'm driving (for obvious and understandable Covid reasons), and given I don't really want the garage testing out a noise that only appears at >5k rpm on the road, I've decided I'm going to get the gearbox oil and filter changed next Friday and see if the noise persists after that, then address it if it does.

In the meantime, I'll find my long screwdriver out.....

Thanks again to all for advice, much appreciated.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Thanks Phil and Steve.

Given it's very difficult to get people to listen to the car whilst I'm driving (for obvious and understandable Covid reasons), and given I don't really want the garage testing out a noise that only appears at >5k rpm on the road, I've decided I'm going to get the gearbox oil and filter changed next Friday and see if the noise persists after that, then address it if it does.

In the meantime, I'll find my long screwdriver out.....

Thanks again to all for advice, much appreciated.

It's only a matter of time before you'd need to service the transmission so changing it can only be a good thing.

 

[Skd884]

Your gbox oil does not require changing after 16k miles, just get the level checked.

 

[AMGeed]

Your gbox oil does not require changing after 16k miles, just get the level checked.

It's a 2014 model , so should have had an ATF change in 2017 and 2020, whatever the mileage.(31k or 3yrs whichever is soonest)?

 

[Skd884]

Hi R

Same gbox as my 2012 c63 mct, its a one off officially at 31k/3 years only, so i would change every 31k miles.

 

[Rich764089]

It's a 2014 model , so should have had an ATF change in 2017 and 2020, whatever the mileage.(31k or 3yrs whichever is soonest)?

It was actually changed in May 2017, so is actually overdue

 

[Skd884]

It was actually changed in May 2017, so is actually overdue

Check your manual we have the same gearbox, mine is a 2012 c63 and for me its a one off change as per my post above.

Cheers

 

[Rich764089]

Check your manual we have the same gearbox, mine is a 2012 c63 and for me its a one off change as per my post above.

Cheers

Thanks. I've heard conflicting things on this and was led to believe that service schedules for facelift E63s (i.e. 2013 onwards) changed to be EVERY 31k miles/3 years, rather than just one-off. But I could be wrong on this. The garage I spoke to today confirmed what they saw in the Mercedes system for my car was a change EVERY 31k miles/3 years.

I will dig out the good old-fashioned paper manual shortly.....

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Thanks. I've heard conflicting things on this and was led to believe that service schedules for facelift E63s (i.e. 2013 onwards) changed to be EVERY 31k miles/3 years, rather than just one-off. But I could be wrong on this. The garage I spoke to today confirmed what they saw in the Mercedes system for my car was a change EVERY 31k miles/3 years.

I will dig out the good old-fashioned paper manual shortly.....

Even on cars which are supposed to be a single transmission fluid change, I do it again after the same timeframe and mileage. There's little to lose, it can only be a good thing.

That said I've read that if a torque converter is very worn, then changing the fluid can lead to some slip, but that's just something people I've never met wrote on the Internet. I doubt that applies here.

 

[Rich764089]

Even on cars which are supposed to be a single transmission fluid change, I do it again after the same timeframe and mileage. There's little to lose, it can only be a good thing.

That said I've read that if a torque converter is very worn, then changing the fluid can lead to some slip, but that's just something people I've never met wrote on the Internet. I doubt that applies here.

Totally agree. I hope to keep the car for a while and will definitely change the ATF every 30k miles. The service schedule clearly states ONCE at 31k/3 years though.

Interesting, not heard that about causing slip before...I won't worry about that one... yet!!

 

[Spider10]

Hi R

Same gbox as my 2012 c63 mct, its a one off officially at 31k/3 years only, so i would change every 31k miles.

I've just checked my history and as above changed in 2015 (2012 c63)

 

[Rich764089]

Just following up on this in case anyone's interested.

My car was in the garage today for gearbox oil and filter change and a service (unfortunately they didn't have the correct plugs, so it'll have to go back for the plug change next week). I tried to recreate the whine at high revs that I was experiencing all the way home, but couldn't. So, I'm tentatively saying that the gearbox oil change did the trick, as folk on here advised it probably would. I'm hoping that low gear changes might also be a little smoother, but I'll know for sure if this is placebo-effect or not after a few more miles!

I'm very happy that this cheap fix (the dealer paid for this, credit to them) seems to have sorted it - although it didn't seem a major issue, it was a worrying niggle. More importantly, this is the green light for a visit to MSL as soon as possible for some mods

 

[Steve84N]

Happy days.

Mercedes couldn't figure mine out when it happened, they were blaming it on an air intake leak! I got lucky when I did the gearbox oil change, which I was doing anyway as the one time service interval specified by Mercedes is rubbish.

 

[Rich764089]

Happy days.

Mercedes couldn't figure mine out when it happened, they were blaming it on an air intake leak! I got lucky when I did the gearbox oil change, which I was doing anyway as the one time service interval specified by Mercedes is rubbish.

Yeah, having already been told there was nothing wrong, and also that it can be air-intake related by mechanics who heard the noise, I was a bit worried. (Should have realised not air-intake related as it happened when off-throttle). Just as well you lucked out on yours, or you might have been chasing a fix for a long time!

I guess it's a relatively rare engine/gearbox combo and an even rarer issue...

 

[sambam2006]

Sorry to bring this old thread back up, I am having the same issue like you @Rich764089

Did your whine sound like this? See my thread, I have videos on there. (Also M157 but in S63L 2016 W222)
AMG 63 2016 (M157) - Noise when accelerating... | Engine

 

[Rich764089]

Hi Sam, replied to your other thread.
Cheers.