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Maybe all these pages should stand as a warning to ALL members, and at the top of the list to new members, open ears before speaking, or in this case, read (and engage brain) before typing. What ever you type on social media will be out there for ever, so think on my friends.
 
pages of bing worthy reading there :) and its only Tuesday ... i think o_O
 
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No, that was one of the Knights Who Say 'Ni!', in the queue just ahead of me. I was the one in the nude, with a body like a Greek God and a ding-dong like a tube of Pringles with a sheep's heart on top (told you it was a dream...)

The Spamburgers were long gone. Bastard! I wanted that hot dog...
 
I think some regard forums like Facetwitgram ie they expect instant "likes" and responses. You see this occasionally on most forums where people spit dummies out because they don't get instant help to resolve their problem. Lack of understanding really. I'm actually amazed (and grateful) that forum sponsors and supporters have the time and inclination to help people out!
 
No, that was one of the Knights Who Say 'Ni!', in the queue just ahead of me. I was the one in the nude, with a body like a Greek God and a ding-dong like a tube of Pringles with a sheep's heart on top (told you it was a dream...)

The Spamburgers were long gone. Bastard! I wanted that hot dog...


Sign of the times - in my day it was ".....tin of VIM with a sheep's heart on top"

Pringles indeed!
 
No need to boast. 😆 Best I managed was 10 years, worst 12 months.
Beginners. I survived 29 years marriage (27 years living together) first time and 23 years marriage so far this time (living together 26 years).
 
I wonder whether the OP is still watching this thread. If so, I have to admire his ability not to comment further - just yet!

My "Misunderstanding" thread arose from this one as an intended discussion on just one of many pitfalls associated with social media. There are far far worse pitfalls that I like to believe have no chance of surfacing within the virtual walls of this relatively august forum. I'd like to keep that other thread separate, so as not to cloud the core of this one. (Sorry @Tonye )

I've been disappointed, but unfortunately not surprised, by the intensity of feelings that a FEW members' posts within this thread have suggested in opposition to what the OP (Graham) has written here. We all do it, pick up on a snippet of what's been said and hang on to that without listening to the rest. We have a tendency to instantly form an opinion of just about anything, be it a car, a person or a forum. Graham did that before having time to bat an eyelid, and he paid for it with a FEW members apparently taking an instant dislike to him. Just 17 minutes after his opening post he responded to some polite advice about giving things a chance:

Fair comment, I am probably premature with my observation, it is a great forum.

That could well have been it. But no, a few others felt the need to have their go too. It appeared not to matter that Graham had already admitted he was wrong to have voiced his opinion so soon after joining and with so little evidence. He was injured and the baying wolves were licking their lips as they sniffed the blood in the air. They nipped, they snapped. Their victim could have just lain there and not tried to protect himself, but his survival instincts kicked in and he tried to fight back, to defend his position. Perhaps that's where he compounded his mistake; the wolves couldn't just smell the blood, they could taste it. They wanted more.

Looking from the outside it began to appear that the wolves were enjoying their game: darting forward for a quick bite then jumping back again. They thought that they were defending the honour of their pack and getting admired by those they claimed to be fighting for. But were they? Did they really believe that members of their pack who had been directly involved with the interloper when he first arrived on the plain were unable to stand up for themselves? They only had to wait briefly before the pack member initially spat upon by the intruder made an appearance to eloquently explain his position without resorting to scratching and biting. But no, they couldn't wait. The impetuous wolves had to have their fun.

One of the younger wolves appeared to nominate himself to howl for the whole pack, insisting that his role was to protect every member of the pack - whether they needed it or not!

It's a bit insulting that a new member critisis the forum with totally incorrect facts about sponsors and members.
He'd already admitted that he was a bit hasty in forming and expressing his opinion.

Incidentally, I didn't read his opening post to the thread as a criticism of the forum, merely a comment on his (limited) experience to date and a view on how he hoped things wouldn't progress.

After your barely disguised barbed opening comment [above] he spat back by accusing you of being a troll. It's surprising that someone who claimed not to know what an OP was but managed to know what (he thought) a troll was. But that's probably irrelevant.

None of us like to be accused of being a troll and that certainly got your hackles up didn't it.
I dont see how you don't see how condescending and hypocritical you are.


You called me a troll, personally I don't find that pleasant, surely your post is the exact thing you are whining about?

Your original post was aimed at the forum as a whole, As I stated, I thing you've been very insulting to members and sponsors.
And there you go again, speaking on behalf of the forum and its members. You (and a few others) may well have gained the impression (dare I say misunderstanding?) that Graham's original post was "aimed at the forum as a whole", but I didn't. Neither did I receive his post as insulting.

Anyway, you could always let your inner daemons out and throw in an insult of your own. Oh, you did!
Don't forget to pick the toys up you threw out of the pram when you close the door on your way out, after having gained the vast and free advice you requested.

So then you go on to question the validity of his "totally incorrect facts" without even bothering to check them out for yourself:
Are there any unhelpful comments on the technical post?(I've not read it as it has no use to me), I've only replied to the thread where the OP(the first post of his I'd read) insulted forum members and sponsors?
Well I did read his thread asking for advice on removing the fuel filter from a CLS350D. Unfortunately nobody was able to provide advice based on experience with that particular configuration, but a few offered suggestions centring around other classes of Mercedes. Graham thanked each and every one of those who had taken the time to offer suggestions, and went on to explain why the ideas couldn't work within the significantly reduced space he had available with his car. So although none of the comments within that thread were actually unhelpful, none were of any help to him. It was like very many other calls for help that appear every day, lots of advice but not so much of use to the enquirer.

Not content with your preceding four snipes at the OP, you felt the need to continue with your mostly unsubstantiated attack. Just because you don't consider your comments to be "nasty or aggressive", doesn't mean that others don't receive them that way.
He is a hypocrite, he called me a troll and nasty, when I opionated he had insulted the forum a whole.

His discussion/argument was that some people say things he doesn't like.

Pot/kettle

I don't think anyone's posts were nasty or aggressive, more defending people/companies/forum that they enjoy, which he seem hell bent on insulting even after his 'misunderstandings'.
Yet he did say he had experienced these issues on other forums.
Common denominator?

What was most amusing about your most recent post on the subject was your closing line where I can only assume you were talking to yourself:
It's just a screen you read, don't take it to heart, we all can't be perfect all the time.
 
Eh?

So he had no disrespectful comments on his tech thread, yet he posted the obnoxious post in general chat....and I'm to blame?

Not once did I call the man a name or insult him, I didn't call him nasty or a troll.
I do think he was hypocritical and insulting(people may think I am)

How is defending an opinion attacking someone?

And as for not feeling posts were aggressive or nasty.....I feel your last post with all my quotes is pretty nasty and aggressive towards me actually!

You seem to fallen on the opposite side of the fence on this to me, that's fine with me, where would we be without debate.

🤣 but its banter,craic, opinion that divides us all, I won't go scurrying off with my tail between my legs because someone doesn't agree with my posts, or criticises me,nor will I dislike that person. I won't leave the site because of an online tiff 🤣
I'll listen, agree or not, learn or not, change my opinion or not.
We all have individual personas

We can all agree to disagree
 
Eh?

So he had no disrespectful comments on his tech thread, yet he posted the obnoxious post in general chat....and I'm to blame?

Not once did I call the man a name or insult him, I didn't call him nasty or a troll.
I do think he was hypocritical and insulting(people may think I am)

How is defending an opinion attacking someone?

And as for not feeling posts were aggressive or nasty.....I feel your last post with all my quotes is pretty nasty and aggressive towards me actually!

You seem to fallen on the opposite side of the fence on this to me, that's fine with me, where would we be without debate.

🤣 but its banter,craic, opinion that divides us all, I won't go scurrying off with my tail between my legs because someone doesn't agree with my posts, or criticises me,nor will I dislike that person. I won't leave the site because of an online tiff 🤣
I'll listen, agree or not, learn or not, change my opinion or not.
We all have individual personas

We can all agree to disagree
I agree. The OP criticized the forum and then told us how it should be. I had to lol when I read it. Quickly he backtracked with the "great forum" quote. Been a member for 3 days - what did he honestly expect? All apparently because he couldn't get a definitive answer to his query.
 
Eh?

So he had no disrespectful comments on his tech thread, yet he posted the obnoxious post in general chat....and I'm to blame?

Not once did I call the man a name or insult him, I didn't call him nasty or a troll.
I do think he was hypocritical and insulting(people may think I am)

How is defending an opinion attacking someone?

And as for not feeling posts were aggressive or nasty.....I feel your last post with all my quotes is pretty nasty and aggressive towards me actually!

You seem to fallen on the opposite side of the fence on this to me, that's fine with me, where would we be without debate.

🤣 but its banter,craic, opinion that divides us all, I won't go scurrying off with my tail between my legs because someone doesn't agree with my posts, or criticises me,nor will I dislike that person. I won't leave the site because of an online tiff 🤣
I'll listen, agree or not, learn or not, change my opinion or not.
We all have individual personas

We can all agree to disagree
His post was obnoxious to you, but as with everything you post it was no more than his opinion.

In one of your posts, that I dare no longer call a rant, you used the stand-alone phrase "pot/kettle". It's my interpretation of what you have posted on this subject that that's a phrase that very much applies to you. Just now you posted "Not once did I call the man a name or insult him." Yet you only have to read your own posts (that you've just objected to being repeated) to see:
"I dont see how you don't see how condescending and hypocritical you are."
"Don't forget to pick the toys up you threw out of the pram when you close the door on your way out,"
"He is a hypocrite"
"he was hypocritical and insulting"

OK, so they are your opinions, opinions that of course you're entitled to. And perhaps he did contradict himself within his posts at the beginning of this thread. But to my clearly different way of thinking, calling someone a hypocrite three times over a short period then claiming not to be attacking that person is in itself hypocritical. You also claim that defending your opinion isn't attacking anyone, whilst simultaneously calling him out for defending his opinion. At least he had the decency to apologise for his misdirected posts.
 

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