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Fuel Price Protest Planned

If a protest is organised properly - then it has the power to bring down government or its leader. The miners did it to Ted Heath and the Radio Caroline protest march in London certainly was instrumental in the downfall of Harold Wilson.
I was there...............
http://www.offshoreechos.com/Caroline%2070/Radio%20Caroline%20-%20The%2070s%20Chapter%2003.htm

So lets not automatically poo-poo the idea.
The government KNOWS this and will take it far more seriously than even perhaps some of the protesters.
The police and army will be out in force to break any large protest up as quickly as possible under government orders.
The outcome will decide on the future of this government - that is clear.
 
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Hmmmm.....I somehow doubt that 2000 hairy demonstrators overthrew Wilson's government....

BUT... as for fuel protestors -- since the last protest there has been much anti-terrorist legislation passed and I wouldnt doubt that this may be envolked ..... They are on record for stating that they were taken unawares last time and that NEVER again will they allow a few to hold the country to ransom again.

Will be interesting to see in what form the demonstration / protest takes - if it is to blockade refineries then the Govts reaction will he hard and swift. If its to block roads around the country then I dont see what can be done....

Trouble is -- has any party actually come out in favour of motorists? ....
 
crockers said:
Hmmmm.....I somehow doubt that 2000 hairy demonstrators overthrew Wilson's government....

BUT... as for fuel protestors -- since the last protest there has been much anti-terrorist legislation passed and I wouldnt doubt that this may be envolked ..... They are on record for stating that they were taken unawares last time and that NEVER again will they allow a few to hold the country to ransom again.

Will be interesting to see in what form the demonstration / protest takes - if it is to blockade refineries then the Govts reaction will he hard and swift. If its to block roads around the country then I dont see what can be done....

Trouble is -- has any party actually come out in favour of motorists? ....
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It wasnt 2000, it was more like 20,000. And probably alot more than that. I WAS THERE - I KNOW THE FACTS. Speakers corner and Trafalger square were PACKED to overflowing. It took 2 hours for the protest march to all move off. Another example of government media manipulation. Wilson told the newspapers and all news media to play down the numbers and the effect. The photos and films told the real story - not the words.
This editorial gives a slightly more accurate appraisal...........
http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME06/Fight_free_radio.shtml
 
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I don't doubt you - sorry.... but I still don't see how the majority of the country would be influenced by 20,000 demonstrators over pirate radios? Perhaps I am missing something..

I think it was a culmination of various factors that led to people deciding to vote elsewhere

  • A disasterous balance of trade figures published a few days before the election
  • Peter Hain's anti South African protests and the Govt bowing to call off the tour
  • England being knocked out of the world cup?
  • Defense (massive) cuts
  • Devaluation of Sterling
And of course your protest would have added to all the above but I don't think you can claim it was that protest that brought about his downfall..


IMHO
 
I am not saying the protest on its own brought down Wilson, all I said was that it was a contributing factor. Lets not forget also, that was the FIRST general election after the voting age was reduced from 21 to 18 years which must have had an effect.
 
It's times like this when I wish we were French, we'd all be out in the streets burning tractors or something.

I think 6 lorries broken down in the right places at rush hour could gridlock London, Hanger Lane, Staples corner etc. Another 4 would take care of Manchester.
It was only last week a motorcycle crash caused chaos at Thornbury roundabout and all traffic between Leeds and Bradford all but stopped for an hour. It took me 55 minutes to travel 5 miles. I can only imagine what 2 lorries could have caused.

What if everyone who wants changes to happen drives into London on the same day to protest ? London is busy enough already but what if an extra 3/400,000 drivers decided to visit at 9:00am on a Thursday. The city would shut down for the day.
It'll never happen because the sad fact is we as a nation either dont care enough or are happy to let others protest on our behalf.
Is there anyone out there with the will and organisational skills to make it happen ?
 
kikkthecat said:
Is there anyone out there with the will and organisational skills to make it happen ?
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No because there is now so much legislation in place to stop people protesting that folks have become too scared to raise their heads above the parapet.

The authorities will immediately invoke some of the more draconian powers they have given themselves which nobody seemed to care about at the time.

Remember the "If you're doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to be scared of" discussions ?

Well now it seems that an awful lot of very ordinary, law abiding people who have never anything wrong are too frightened to speak up.

Andy
 
I seem to recall an earlier thread on here in which a poster told us that he heard that the government had plans ready in case of another tanker blockade, and if I recall correctly they were pretty savage.

I favour the 'stealthier' approach proposed earlier in this thread of boycotting one of the big retailers for a fortnight or so.

Oh, and vote for the next Blue Peter cat (or puppy or tortoise or.....) to be called Mohammed :devil:
 
anti terror laws will be used.
Lesson to all those saying if you have nothing to hide do not fear.
Well lets see whether we have anything to hide now as this protest could well be described as a terrorist act
 
I suppose we will have to wait and see. I presume it will be different to the previous blockade. Wish I was not on the M1 tommorow though!

David
 
Posted at the Transaction 2007 Website - http://www.transaction-2007.com/

David

The following statement is released on 10th December 2007 at 10:15Hrs

Transaction2007 have decided to release the date and time of protest action earlier than scheduled. This is to enable the motorist and public to better prepare themselves for the coming action. This will be a nationwide protest extending to Northern and Southern Ireland.

A date of Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am has been decided for protest action. This date was decided by members as the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend. This action will be initiated at a refinery or storage depot somewhere near you. Anyone wishing to support action is requested to make your way there at the alotted time. Transaction again wish to emphasise the importance of legal protesting.

Please note: No member from Transaction2007 is available for press or media commenting at this stage.
 
well disruption of a nations fuel supply will cause panic and TERROR among the population:rolleyes: according to the government
 
I don't remember terror - I do remember quite a lot of symapthy! The protesters stopped at the right time, having made their point.

I do remember a vary bizzare drive on the M5 where no-one was doing over 55 mph! Have to try and remember to drive econmically for a while I think.
 
The protest will probably be a damp squib because most people don't even know it is happening. Motorists aren't in a Union and getting them to act in concert is very difficult. The last protest had some effect because the refinery drivers stayed put -which amazed me. Probably won't happen again.
 
I think the main problem is the British public and I include myself in this.We are too apathetic,it is not just fuel we are ripped off with,it is everything,just look at the price of many things in other countries and compare with here.Brown and co know apart from verbal mutterings, nothing will happen.They will just carry on as always blaming global warming .This has been the best thing to happen for government,rob you blind and blame that.
 
I don't think global warming has much to do with today's pump prices. When the IRAQ war began, the price of oil was $25 a barrel. Recently it has been flirting with $100 a barrel. The growth of China and the newer economies has more to do with the increase in the price of oil than does the UK govt.
 
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