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Managed to fill the car with diesel yesterday ready for the festive season, and it only cost 121.9p per litre. Unleaded was also 121.9p which makes a diesel even more economical since the price differential in favour of unleaded has finished.:)
 
diesel and unleaded same price at Tesco Extra 104.9
 
Petrol has been more expensive than diesel in Ireland for 12 months now since the gov decided to increase there tax take on petrol by 8c
 
121.9?!?! OUCH! I filled up on Monday for 106.9 in Watford for standard 95 RON...

In the states you can get any old cr*p really...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Gas_Station_Pump_Five_Octane_Ratings.jpg

In the United States, in the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 AKI is the minimum octane, and 91 AKI is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical naturally-aspirated engine draws in less air mass per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to less fuel and reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock. It is safe to fill up a carbureted car that normally takes 87 AKI fuel at sea level with 85 AKI fuel in the mountains, but at sea level the fuel may cause damage to the engine.

A disadvantage to this strategy is that most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the "premium" 91 AKI fuel. In some east coast states, up to 94 AKI is available. In parts of the Midwest (primarily Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois and Missouri) ethanol based E-85 fuel with 105 AKI is available [2]. Often, filling stations near US racing tracks will offer higher octane levels such as 100 AKI. California fuel stations will offer 87, 89, and 91 AKI octane fuels, and at some stations, 100 AKI or higher octane, sold as racing fuel. Until summer 2001 before the phase-out of methyl tert-butyl ether aka MTBE as an octane enhancer additive, 92 AKI was offered in lieu of 91.
 
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Managed to fill the car with diesel yesterday ready for the festive season, and it only cost 121.9p per litre. Unleaded was also 121.9p which makes a diesel even more economical since the price differential in favour of unleaded has finished.:)

121.9 again ouch. At least in Shetland you can't go to far!!
 
121.9 again ouch. At least in Shetland you can't go to far!!

You're right, at these prices I can't afford to go too far.:thumb:

Over a period my fuel consumption here averages about 10mpg less compared with long motorway drives, due to the bends twists hills and stop starts on single tracks we enjoy.

Sadly we do not have the long queues and traffic jams that seem so popular down South, but you can't have everything I guess.
 
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Meanwhile the shell in Salford Quays is selling at 103.9 unleaded and I think 104.9 diesel.
 
And don't forget Dear Gordon and his little New Year present to us all in a week's time.

Yes, the restoration of the 17.5% VAT rate, which means we will all see a 2p/litre or so price hike from 1 Jan.

Nice one, Gordon. :doh:
 
Strange how the price hasn't moved much even though crude is still about half it's peak. Show's how much of the production cost is actually down to the raw product.
 
When VAT came down from 17.5% to 15%, didn't Darling adjust fuel duty upwards so that we didn't get the benefit of the VAT drop?? So is the shady Chancellor now going to sting us when the VAT rate goes up? Are we being fleeced?

Answers on a postcard to 11 Downing Street, Lon ......
 
103.9 at Asda here - no commute until 1st Jan so what I have in the tank will last the Christmas period, but must remember to fill up before the 1st.
 
cost for my "comedy fuel" is 0 to 60p per litre :p
 
121.9?!?! OUCH! I filled up on Monday for 106.9 in Watford for standard 95 RON...

In the states you can get any old cr*p really...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Gas_Station_Pump_Five_Octane_Ratings.jpg

In the United States, in the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 AKI is the minimum octane, and 91 AKI is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical naturally-aspirated engine draws in less air mass per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to less fuel and reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock. It is safe to fill up a carbureted car that normally takes 87 AKI fuel at sea level with 85 AKI fuel in the mountains, but at sea level the fuel may cause damage to the engine.

A disadvantage to this strategy is that most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the "premium" 91 AKI fuel. In some east coast states, up to 94 AKI is available. In parts of the Midwest (primarily Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois and Missouri) ethanol based E-85 fuel with 105 AKI is available [2]. Often, filling stations near US racing tracks will offer higher octane levels such as 100 AKI. California fuel stations will offer 87, 89, and 91 AKI octane fuels, and at some stations, 100 AKI or higher octane, sold as racing fuel. Until summer 2001 before the phase-out of methyl tert-butyl ether aka MTBE as an octane enhancer additive, 92 AKI was offered in lieu of 91.

Worth noting that the US octane ratings use a slightly different system to ours.

The US AKI 91 stuff is pretty much standard UK 95 RON unleaded.

They do have a greater selection of grades though, as I assume most of the gas-guzzling large displacement, older cars/trucks are pretty basic in design and have no real need for the modern fancy fuels.

And don't forget US gallons are smaller than ours :D ;)

Will
 
And don't forget Dear Gordon and his little New Year present to us all in a week's time.

Yes, the restoration of the 17.5% VAT rate, which means we will all see a 2p/litre or so price hike from 1 Jan.

Nice one, Gordon. :doh:

dont forget when vat went down duty went up, so unless it was another nulab CON I expect the duty to be reduced as the vatgoes up. (never mind the snowwatch out for flying pigs)
 
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When VAT came down from 17.5% to 15%, didn't Darling adjust fuel duty upwards so that we didn't get the benefit of the VAT drop?? So is the shady Chancellor now going to sting us when the VAT rate goes up? Are we being fleeced?

Answers on a postcard to 11 Downing Street, Lon ......

Yes! Well remembered. I'm not the revolutionary type, but if he does whack the extra VAT on its time for a riot...or at least hope the papers pick up on it..
 
dont forget when vat went down duty went up, so unless it was another nulab CON I expect the duty to be reduced as the vatgoes up. (never mind the snowwatch out for flying pigs)

There will be a rise in fuel duty of 1p a litre every year from 1 April 2010 to 2013.

I hope those flying pigs run on methane! HD
 
Managed to fill the car with diesel yesterday ready for the festive season, and it only cost 121.9p per litre. Unleaded was also 121.9p which makes a diesel even more economical since the price differential in favour of unleaded has finished.:)

I think it worked out that we paid about 33p per litre yesterday to fill up with RON95.:bannana:
 
The further you are away from a Refinery/Distribution terminal the more expensive the fuel will be, unless you have two Supermarkets trying to buy your business.
 

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