Gatsos--the honeymoon is over?

[davidjpowell]

Rubbish.

This sort of structure is common for various charity and interest groups.

It's not subject to FOI because ... it's non-government.

And surprise surprise - the tradition in this country is that the police keep some separation from HMG.

So basically it's not worth reading too much into it - which is what you're doing - because they've used a perfectly logical means to setup their organisation.

Much as I don't like the camera's I agree. Under the more traditional structure of these organisations Trustee's are liable for debts, leases etc, and they don't like that. This structure removes the personal liability, much like the difference between Partnerships and a Limited Company.

 

[Mr E]

We've had a Watchman camera on test for ages now on the A24 - covering a junction where a number of people have been killed or seriously injured. Since it's installation - and bear in mind that this is a test site with "camera on test" signs around it - there has been one serious incident (sadly involving a S210 320). The problem has always been that the locals know how risky the section of road can be, and drive accordingly. Others view the lights on the dual carriageway as a grand prix start and ignore the 60. Whereas in the past it was very difficult to guage how fast people were coming towards you (at the junction you're just under a slight brow in the road and visibility is not very good - can make for an interesting exit down the little slip road too!), now you know that the vast majority of people will be at or below 60 when you cross (you can drive straight across to turn north (waiting in the central gap)).

Within the last month a new test site has emerged - for those who know the A24 this is between the Hop Oast and the the southern Southwater roundabouts, southbound. This is an average speed camera trial. Of note is that you can easily spot the second of the pair of cameras, bit it took a while to spot the first set as they are very close to a bridge (on the southern side on the southbound carriageway).

Again I can understand why they have chosen this stretch - nice and open with good sightlines means even I have used this to be "naughty" when no-one else is around. Not known as an accident blackspot, but I have seen seen some really stupid driving / speeds from cars and bikes over the years.

 

[wemorgan]

From Mr E's post I think it's fair to say where people know the reasoning behind a specific speed camera or road 'calming' measure then there is greater acceptance of it.

Which leads me to say how badly government information is shared on the internet. I think there was a recent news article saying the number of government websites is to be reduce to simplify how information is presented and found.