Guide price on E320 coupe AMG please

[bolide]

Only approximate figures, I'm afraid. I've not ratified them.

Saloons 2,060,000
Estates 340,000
Coupes 15,000 I don't know if this includes convertibles, but I expect it does.

I saw a 260E coupe outside my hotel the other day (I'm not in the UK - again!)

PJ

On that basis I retract my previous statement and declare the Coupe "Rare" as it represents just 0.6% of production!


Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

 

[aka$h]

Thanks for the words of advice and the compliments on my new car.

I have had a w210 on a '95 vintage which was also fitted with the m104 engine, so I knew the possible problems as far as the engine was concerned.

The m103's were far more reliable, we owned a 300e for over 10 years (165,000 miles), had a new head gasket at around 150k, everyone who ever serviced the car said it was a bulletproof engine.

I just hope the car ive just bought is as reliable as my last 124.

 

[Steve Chafer]

Sorry to be obtuse, but when you say the wirng loom degrades do you mean all of it or a certain part, in the boot area or the engine bay for instance, and how much is a replacement, it just theres a nice looking 1994 E320 coupe on e bay metallic red tan interior which could have all the flaws mentioned in these posts...but it does look nice
Steve

 

[Flash]

Stunning car and looks like a real minter....

 

[del320]

Sorry to be obtuse, but when you say the wirng loom degrades do you mean all of it or a certain part, in the boot area or the engine bay for instance, and how much is a replacement, it just theres a nice looking 1994 E320 coupe on e bay metallic red tan interior which could have all the flaws mentioned in these posts...but it does look nice
Steve

Folk get a bit over-excited about this issue. Whilst it certainly is a recognised problem, it is far less likely to occur in a cooler climate (UK) or in a car that has not been constantly hammered at/in high temperatures. Wiring insulation simply breaks up with heat.

The harness itself is around £300 and is reckoned by the bold to be a DIY job. Just connect a couple of dozen plugs.

Read all about it here

It certainly looks a damn sight simpler than Grobers X-rated slideshow about removing the dashboard.

Quelle horreur

 

[500E]

Nice E320 AMG

Very good choice indeed and VERY high spec!!

 

[Pringles]

I paid £437 plus vat for a new wiring loom two years ago. I am told the new ones won't bio-degrade. The ECU for mine was nearly £1500 and wasn't in stock anywhere and was ordered from the factory. An E320 one was around £1000. My car had lots of big items fail at once but I am sure this is unusual and just bad luck really.

I am not mechanically minded but I think I could have changed the loom myself with care but I would rather pay an experienced person to do it.

 

[BenzedUP]

Nice car!

whats the power on that btw?

 

[aka$h]

Nice car!

whats the power on that btw?

Thanks,
Its 220 bhp, a little odd as a pre-facelift 300-24 was 231 bhp.

 

[petef]

I think it looks like a good car. Nice find.

However:

Rubbish, I'm afraid. I bought mine (non AMG, but Sportline, 1 owner, FMBSH, 71k, climate, electric seats, ortho driver's seat, two airbags) in the spring, and I've twice been offered £10k for it (which reprsents the kind of profit that secondhand car dealers can only dream of). Not by mugs, either but by people who know what they are talking about. Needless to say, I am still the owner

How much did you pay for it ? ...you only have to look on autotrder to see what these cars are going for...between £2 and £4 grand MAX !!!..and the more expensive ones dont move. There are coupes that have been on autotrader for 9 months and they have not sold...its a limited market...i study them weekly !!! so if someone has offered you 10 grand twice then i would take the money.

 

[Howard]

The expensive ones (which are the best ) don't move because of all the average motors at £3 or 4 K , people who don't really know what they are looking at see that they can buy one for 4 grand and think why should i pay 9 grand for the same model ?

I know, because before i joined here, i did the same , bought one for £4 k , which while i love it, there are always little bits need doing on it....

Knowing what i know now, primarirly from the good w124 people on this forum , i would have gone for a slightly more expensive one ... in the two years since i bought it, i have probably spent 2 - 2.5 k on things that needed doing on it, whereas if i'd have bought a 7 or 8 k one these probably wouldn't have needed doing...

So, i guess it all depends on if you have the cash for the initial outlay, which at the time i didn't still , i love the 'whale' and wouldn't part with it now ...

By the way aka$h , that is a beautiful , beautiful car.... if you are out with Navs in it, don't park it near a blind bend , and watch out for Vauxhall Zafiras ...

Top buy mate !!! :bannana:

 

[KLP 92]

By the way aka$h , that is a beautiful , beautiful car.... if you are out with Navs in it, don't park it near a blind bend , and watch out for Vauxhall Zafiras ...

You joker!

 

[imadoofus]

How much did you pay for it ? ...you only have to look on autotrder to see what these cars are going for...between £2 and £4 grand MAX !!!..and the more expensive ones dont move. There are coupes that have been on autotrader for 9 months and they have not sold...its a limited market...i study them weekly !!! so if someone has offered you 10 grand twice then i would take the money.

The more expensive ones don't move, because they're not as good as the sellers think they are.

What you see on Autotrader, as Howard says, are the average ones. Decent examples don't come up very often. Some of the 'stickers' to which you refer are the same ones I actually inspected in the spring. The reason they have not sold is because they are not worth what is being asked. Mine is worth all of what I paid for it, and the fact that I've been offered more is testament, in my opinion to the fact that values of decent ones are bottoming out, and will, within a couple of years, start to rise.

I don't want to sell mine. I don't need to sell it (even for £10k), and the fact that I've been asked twice to sell it for that (two different people, BTW), just confirms that I've got one of the good ones.

I saw plenty of cars when I was buying, and put simply, there is a world of difference between the £3-4k examples and the top end. Dealers like Silver Arrows still regularly sell coupes, with no effort, for mid teens. If the same standard were available on 'Trader for £4k, then how could this be?

It may be that you have already done so, and if you have then I apologise in advance, but get out and view some of the cars on Autotrader. You will quickly see the huge variations in quality that 10-15 year old cars can exhibit.

PJ

 

[del320]

Emm - as I said earlier...

Prices nowadays can be compared to a length of string - condition is everything.

As imadoofus correctly states

I saw plenty of cars when I was buying, and put simply, there is a world of difference between the £3-4k examples and the top end. Dealers like Silver Arrows still regularly sell coupes, with no effort, for mid teens. If the same standard were available on 'Trader for £4k, then how could this be?

It may be that you have already done so, and if you have then I apologise in advance, but get out and view some of the cars on Autotrader. You will quickly see the huge variations in quality that 10-15 year old cars can exhibit.

The only other 'normal' cars I can immediately think of are the RR Silver Shadows and earlier Spirits. A HUGE variation in prices and entirely dependant on originality and condition.

A genuinely 'good' coupe or cabriolet will always get the money and without significant deterioration thereafter, will not depreciate further.

Imadoofus, Janner and I have said all this before - Silver Arrows and Charles Ironside would not be in business if this was not true!

Sometimes I think we 124 owners are on some sort of religious mission . Until you get a shot of a good one, you'll never know just how excellent they are - and, for a design going back over 20 years, how well they compare with a modern Mercedes in terms of comfort, ride and handling.

 

[glojo]

and, for a design going back over 20 years, how well they compare with a modern Mercedes in terms of comfort, ride and handling.

To me they will always be Mercedes-Benz...

Subsequent models are perhaps more luxurious, but they might not emit that 'solid' build quality.

I would love to have the 124 shell, with the 211 320CDI 'innards' mega grin factor. Youwould never, never prise it away.

Perhaps a long term project for Ian??

John

 

[del320]

To me they will always be Mercedes-Benz...
I would love to have the 124 shell, with the 211 320CDI John

Yup!

 

[Howard]

I quite fancy a w124 coupe with the engine out of the w208 430 CLK .... I know the 500e is more powerful, but you can't get it in a coupe, and i reckon that the compact v8 in the CLK would fit easier into a w124

now that you would never get away from me ......

 

[esox]

I dont know whether its because i`m reading all the 124 threads lately but there seems to be a definate undercurrent/feeling that the 124`s/E coupe are a model to watch out for.

 

[Howard]

W124 Coupe = most beautiful, understated , over-engineered car Mercedes Benz have ever made

Run out and buy one !

 

[petef]

The more expensive ones don't move, because they're not as good as the sellers think they are.

What you see on Autotrader, as Howard says, are the average ones. Decent examples don't come up very often. Some of the 'stickers' to which you refer are the same ones I actually inspected in the spring. The reason they have not sold is because they are not worth what is being asked. Mine is worth all of what I paid for it, and the fact that I've been offered more is testament, in my opinion to the fact that values of decent ones are bottoming out, and will, within a couple of years, start to rise.

I don't want to sell mine. I don't need to sell it (even for £10k), and the fact that I've been asked twice to sell it for that (two different people, BTW), just confirms that I've got one of the good ones.

I saw plenty of cars when I was buying, and put simply, there is a world of difference between the £3-4k examples and the top end. Dealers like Silver Arrows still regularly sell coupes, with no effort, for mid teens. If the same standard were available on 'Trader for £4k, then how could this be?

It may be that you have already done so, and if you have then I apologise in advance, but get out and view some of the cars on Autotrader. You will quickly see the huge variations in quality that 10-15 year old cars can exhibit.

PJ[/QUOTE
If you are happy with the price you paid then fine...but lets get this in perspective...if you bought a coupe that had an excellent body, had a full mercedes benz service history, drove well, but had some faults eg cylinder head gasket, gearbox, tappetts etc etc and the asking price was ..lets say £3,500 for a M reg ( which there are many of )...you could spend £2,500 and have it in tip top condition...which would take the total price to £6,000.

You can spend silly money on a car and still have problems lurking round the corner, regardless of who has checked it.....I would rather pay less and have some spare cash to sort out what need s doing... or am i missing the point here ???