iPhone 5!

[Deleted member 37751]

Crespo,
I agree with you 100% on the VW camper thing, absolutely.

In all honesty, I'm not a computer/phone person really, I've got no idea what computer runs what program or whatever, but as a layman, the iPhone works for me. If and when someone else brings out a range of products etc that works all together as good as Apple stuff then believe me, I'll be jumping ship. Until that day though, I'll be using them.

And you could do with a bigger stick to keep the youngsters in line...

 

[gIzzE]

Its the way they go about there business. They bang on about innovation when there ideas are stolen and when a competitor comes out with something vaguely similar they get thrashed with law suits.

Instead of trying to keep ahead of the competition with realistic prices and competitive hardware they try to stop other manufacturers selling better products through the courts. Yet they bang on about innovation.

The Apple Ipod was actually an idea by a British man in the late 70's and was stolen by Apple. Without the Ipod Apple would be nothing today.

Steve Jobs, 1996: “Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal”

When you strip down an Iphone it is pretty crap compared to other phones out there and way over priced.
Anyone would think apple invented the touch screen smart phone but they didn't that accolade belongs to Ericsson, You don't see them taking Apple to court.


But in reality i don't hate Apple but i am not a fan of there marketing strategies and the Ipod generation that use them.

It infuriates me how people will happily pay way over the odds for an inferior product just because it is cool.

Its the very same reason i don't drive a VW camper van. A good one is probably worth the same as my merc but i like my mod cons.


I guess it probably boils down to the young lads i employ who are always asking for subs at work because they have blown all there hard earned on an Ipad to go with there Iphone (surely its the same thing but bigger) and who go in to melt down every other day when the piss poor screen cracks again or there Itunes stops working.

And if i could get them to stop playing with the fu***ng things my production would go up 3000%.

 

[Crespo]

Was thinking exactly that as I typed. ;-)

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[gIzzE]

It infuriates me how people will happily pay way over the odds for an inferior product just because it is cool.

There is the small fact that the said inferior product brings them a lot of happiness and enjoyment, and you can't put a price on that.

It sounds like you need to borrow a VW Camper for a couple of months, it may just change your opinion?

 

[V12]

Steve Jobs, 1996: “Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal”

You really want to go there?

http://www.ted.com/talks/kirby_ferguson_embrace_the_remix.html

Cue the apple fanboys with pitch forks

SPX, the new range of Windows phones are very intuitive, simple and user friendly. They do make a good alternative at a fraction of the cost.

 

[gIzzE]

Just add, I never got the VW Camper thing, but my cousin and his wife bought one and they go from the Midlands down to Woolacombe in it all the time, leave off Friday and come back Sunday night, bit of surfing, lots of food and drink.
If I had the money I would probably have one on my drive.

 

[V12]

Its the way they go about there business. They bang on about innovation when there ideas are stolen and when a competitor comes out with something vaguely similar they get thrashed with law suits.

Although being anti-apple, i don't like this argument.
Apple may not "invent" but they do know how to "implement" technology.
They also have excellent marketing skills and they make people excited to use their products and try out new technology. They also make new technology easily accessible as has been pointed out above!
Video calling has been around for 10 years or more on smart phones...you know that, i know that. How many people used it? Virtually no-one. Apple comes along with face time and although they haven't implemented it perfectly from the get go, lots of people are using it.
Trust me, it's good for everyone in the end...apple consumer or savy one...

 

[brucemillar]

Crespo

Some believe that Apples stance on suing the competition is actually good for the consumer as it ultimately forces other to become more intuitive in their design.

I think that this is a difficult thing to gauge. Let us not forget that Apple are also constantly sued.

Jobs was correct in his Great Artists Steal statement. Microsoft and Bill Gates give the truth to that statement. I also think that some would say it's all about not re-inventing the wheel. So if somebody else has done it well why should I not use that in my product.

I never understood the Apple thing until I was reluctantly forced into it by my then employer removing my laptop and giving me a MacBook Pro.

Once you get used to no viruses and no GPF's and having to re-boot or constantly look for what software is hogging CPU / memory Apple becomes just so easy to use. Like the phone it is intuitive.

I buy my daughter a band new Cannon Digital camera. She plugs it in to her Windows Laptop. It wants a Disc installed and questions answered.

She plugs it into the Macbook it immediately tells her that she has a Cannon Digital Camera installed does she want to download the pictures? Does she want to keep them on the camera or delete them. She can mail them, text them edit them or file them using face recognition or places on Google Earth or date & tie or all of the above. She still has not had to install any software.

Easy, intuitive and very powerful.

 

[gIzzE]

In all honesty, I'm not a computer/phone person really, I've got no idea what computer runs what program or whatever, but as a layman, the iPhone works for me. If and when someone else brings out a range of products etc that works all together as good as Apple stuff then believe me, I'll be jumping ship. Until that day though, I'll be using them.

I am very techy I guess, always been into PCs since the early days, can calibrate CRT projectors, Plasmas, LCDs etc.
Used to sell hi-fi and that is the one area where I waste more than I do on cars.

However after years with Windows NT and Linux Distros I bought a macbook, and never looked back, it was a breathe of fresh air, as stable as linux and easier than any of them, everything just worked, all the time.


However, when it came to phones I always like my Nokia 6310, decent reception, excellent battery etc. etc.

I only bought and iPhone as I was going away and my contract was due a renewal, I had an iPod anway and thought for tavelling, the pool, etc. an iPhone would be great, then when I got back I could go back to my normal phone.
Within 24 hours I had fallen for it, just so simple but did everything I wanted.

The fact my old man could not get PCs for years and found his way round a macbook in weeks says alot, the fact he couldn't even text on his old Nokia properly but whizzes round the iPhone also says alot, they tend to just do what you expect it to do. That is their selling point more than anything else.
You can't explain that though, you have to live with one to get it.

 

[parky]

Can you explain why our music collection is 'Locked in to iTunes'?
I use iTunes and all the music I have purchased does not have DRM on it, and plays on any device that can play AAC files, including my car (loaded on to the internal hard drive).

Get your facts right.

 

[V12]

Technically, you are just leasing music from iTunes...check out the T's&C's.

 

[scottydee]

Bloody iphone 5!!!! It's just taken me ages to get through to Orange, because of the call volume of people pre-ordering them!

Rant over....I'm ok now.......

 

[gIzzE]

I don't buy from iTunes, but I do like the interface and the way when I start a new computer I just drag the whole folder over and everything is there, playlists, cover art etc. etc.

Again, I will pay a premium for ease.

Time Machine is another thing that is priceless to me, no matter what I do I always have a snap shot on an external drive. When I left my Macbook on a train it was simply a case of get home with a new Air and set it up from Time Machine, the next day I had my machine back, exactly the same, no serials to enter, no passwords to enter, all my mail from the last 5 years there, all my music, it was an exact copy.

Using the Windows 7 back up the other day for the first time and it couldn't use the saved file, just couldn't see it!!
Then when we had a mainboard fail on an older machine at work we tried to install onto a new PC and we just got bluescreens as too much hardware had changed??!!
What is the point of back up like that if you can't transfer it to a new machine? Surely that is the point??

It is these little things that make spending the extra worth it.

 

[brucemillar]

Can you explain why our music collection is 'Locked in to iTunes'?
I use iTunes and all the music I have purchased does not have DRM on it, and plays on any device that can play AAC files, including my car (loaded on to the internal hard drive).

Get your facts right.

Not sure who this is aimed at?

 

[Starky]

I don't buy from iTunes, but I do like the interface and the way when I start a new computer I just drag the whole folder over and everything is there, playlists, cover art etc. etc.

Again, I will pay a premium for ease.

Time Machine is another thing that is priceless to me, no matter what I do I always have a snap shot on an external drive. When I left my Macbook on a train it was simply a case of get home with a new Air and set it up from Time Machine, the next day I had my machine back, exactly the same, no serials to enter, no passwords to enter, all my mail from the last 5 years there, all my music, it was an exact copy.

Using the Windows 7 back up the other day for the first time and it couldn't use the saved file, just couldn't see it!!
Then when we had a mainboard fail on an older machine at work we tried to install onto a new PC and we just got bluescreens as too much hardware had changed??!!
What is the point of back up like that if you can't transfer it to a new machine? Surely that is the point??

It is these little things that make spending the extra worth it.

Sorry but can you explain what time machine is? Is it like I cloud? I'm not very techie so go easy.

 

[Spinal]

My daughter who studies music uses an iphone in ways that are just so cool to an old fart like me.

I hear a piece of music. What is that song, who sang it. She switches on an app. The phone listens and gives her the song title and recording artist in seconds.

Sounds like shazam (Welcome to Shazam) - a service which was out long before the iPhone... originally, instead of an app it was a number you would call (the automated service would record the tune and then identify it for you).

Nothing new from apple there... oh, and it was available for android, nokia, windows phone, and actually any old phone you can find.

M.

 

[brucemillar]

Sounds like shazam (Welcome to Shazam) - a service which was out long before the iPhone... originally, instead of an app it was a number you would call (the automated service would record the tune and then identify it for you).

Nothing new from apple there... oh, and it was available for android, nokia, windows phone, and actually any old phone you can find.

M.

Nope not antiquate old Shazam.

This is the Soundhound app. Much slicker and probably available on Android too.

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[Mr E]

I don't buy from iTunes, but I do like the interface and the way when I start a new computer I just drag the whole folder over and everything is there, playlists, cover art etc. etc.

Again, I will pay a premium for ease.

Time Machine is another thing that is priceless to me, no matter what I do I always have a snap shot on an external drive. When I left my Macbook on a train it was simply a case of get home with a new Air and set it up from Time Machine, the next day I had my machine back, exactly the same, no serials to enter, no passwords to enter, all my mail from the last 5 years there, all my music, it was an exact copy.

Using the Windows 7 back up the other day for the first time and it couldn't use the saved file, just couldn't see it!!
Then when we had a mainboard fail on an older machine at work we tried to install onto a new PC and we just got bluescreens as too much hardware had changed??!!
What is the point of back up like that if you can't transfer it to a new machine? Surely that is the point??

It is these little things that make spending the extra worth it.

I guess that's an advantage of a "closed" system.

My experience of Apple kit is that it nearly cost me two very important gigs - all this nonsense about it never crashing, etc, just isn't true. I now run all my gig stuff from two old Thinkpads - one running Ubuntu looks after the music, backing tracks, etc, whilst the other (running Win 7) does the lights and controls the midi patching for my rack. No crashes, no blue screens, no going off and doing it's own thing.

I would love a tablet that would allow me to select a track, fire off what it needs to the other two machines, and scroll the lyrics for me. That would make my gig-world complete.

 

[paul73mt]

ordered mine and got an email from Apple saying now despatched so will be delivered to me Friday. Already running my 4S with a Nano sim so it will just be put sim in and restore it from my last back up and off i go..

 

[evdok]

Are you sure it's not a micro sim like my 4s?