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Is there much difference in these 2 batteries

mercmancdi

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mercedes E320 cdi sport ,vw Tiguan R line , M B cls , bmw convertible
battery 1 is Bosch S4 019. Capacity 95 Ah CCA 800 A
battery 2 is lion 019 Capacity 95Ah. CCA 750 A
IS THE BOSCH WORTH £40 more than the lion based on these figures.
The car E320 might sit for a wk and not be started but would both do same job I don’t under stand what the CCA mean and if a difference of 50 CCA would make much difference.
 
The difference is the Bosch has a higher cold cranking amp rating.

The Bosch has a 4 year warranty, and the Lion has a 3 year warranty.
 
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battery 1 is Bosch S4 019. Capacity 95 Ah CCA 800 A
battery 2 is lion 019 Capacity 95Ah. CCA 750 A
IS THE BOSCH WORTH £40 more than the lion based on these figures.
The car E320 might sit for a wk and not be started but would both do same job I don’t under stand what the CCA mean and if a difference of 50 CCA would make much difference.



As long as the original MB battery specified for your car is no less that 95Ah CCA 750, then either battery will be fine.

But, the Bosch battery may have longer warranty (1 to 6 years, depending on the battery model), in which case it may be worth the extra money.

Said that, I would also check price for the original MB/Varta battery, they can be priced quite competitively.
 
The difference in CCA capacity is only one-sixteenth - just under seven per cent - so it will make very little difference. The batteries may be warranted for different periods, but that doesn't mean either will fail the day after its warranty expires.

If the cost difference matters, go for the Lion. If the car is a long-term keeper, go for the Bosch, but think about it; do you really believe you will still be driving that car in three years time, let alone four?
 
The difference in CCA capacity is only one-sixteenth - just under seven per cent - so it will make very little difference. The batteries may be warranted for different periods, but that doesn't mean either will fail the day after its warranty expires.

If the cost difference matters, go for the Lion. If the car is a long-term keeper, go for the Bosch, but think about it; do you really believe you will still be driving that car in three years time, let alone four?

To be honest the price does matter £40 it would but other bits and pieces.
 
As long as the original MB battery specified for your car is no less that 95Ah CCA 750, then either battery will be fine.

But, the Bosch battery may have longer warranty (1 to 6 years, depending on the battery model), in which case it may be worth the extra money.

Said that, I would also check price for the original MB/Varta battery, they can be priced quite competitively.

According to euro parts both are suitable. Don’t think I could get the original mb battery local cheap enough for me .
 
Lion have a terrible reputation .

Even better get a Bosch S5 maybe even better CCA & Ah , or equivalent Varta ( exactly the same and made in same factory ) .

Yuasa also good .
 
According to euro parts both are suitable. Don’t think I could get the original mb battery local cheap enough for me .

The Lion will most likely be fine, and it has a 3 year warranty anyhow. On a family members Renault a Lion battery was fitted for £50, 2 years later it was still fine (when sold) :)
 
That's two swear words..

Lion and Reno .
 
The difference is the Bosch has a higher cold cranking amp rating.

The Bosch has a 4 year warranty, and the Lion has a 3 year warranty.
Lion have a terrible reputation .

Even better get a Bosch S5 maybe even better CCA & Ah , or equivalent Varta ( exactly the same and made in same factory ) .

Yuasa also good .

I know but £55 dearer.
 
If I buy the Bosch S5 it being 100AH. And 830 CCA will this be ok for my car it can’t be too high I presume ?
 
There's usually a handful of battery manufacturers that OEM batteries for other companies. It would not be a surprise to me if they were both made in the same factory.
 
Like markjay suggests, I too would get a price from your local main dealer. I found their pricing very reasonable, and they installed it too for free.

If it’s between the Bosch and Lion only, then personally I would go for the Bosch. The Lion could be OK, but I would want it to be better than OK, to minimise the chances of it letting me down.
 
Those warranties are incredibly hard to claim on. - I had a Bosch battery that only lasted two years, and I gave up jumping through hoops before I got anything from them.

So I suppose what I'm saying is "don't let the additional warranty sway your decision too much".
 
^^^ Had the same years ago on a battery from Halfords, the girlfriend (now wife) was driving tiny distances at low speeds it was a car with a small battery and I was worried it would let her down and leave her stranded (what a caring boyfriend I must have been back then :)) and I was working away often so I bought the most expensive battery Halfords did back than with a 5 year 'warranty'.

Needless to say it gave up after 3 years or so but when I came to get the receipt out of the binder I kept the cars history in it was completely blank !! it was one of those electrostatic printers or whatever they call them and I had put the receipt in a plastic sleeve and over the years it had completely erased every single trace of printing from the paper !

I (of course) had no bank record to prove the purchase but after some 'discussion' Halfords replaced the battery , not quite like for like but it worked for me.

OP have you checked prices on www.tayna.co.uk ?
 
Halfords do ereceipts now. No fading there!!
Also, don’t forget that if your car has ‘intelligent’ charging - usually with stop/start, a change from the original spec battery will need to be coded in.
 
In terms of starting requirements, batteries in modern cars seem to be over sized to cope with all the electrical gadgets I doubt you would ever need the extra CCA's or would notice any difference in performance from either battery until they are on their last legs when on average the lower CCA battery will expire first. But if the batteries are correctly maintained that could be a lot more than 3 or 4 years off. I'm still on the original battery coming up for 9 years old and it isn't showing any signs of expiring yet. The warranty period probably assumes that some people will mistreat them by not keeping them fully charged.
 

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