Jaguar X-type - talk me out of it!

[st4]

Fuel costs driving 22K a year would be interesting - I'm exploring this C220 CDi in more detail now. Anyone any idea what the real world fuel consumption is (41mpg would save me £500 a year - might help me justify tying up that much captial in a car). Steve what does your E220 return (my regular commute is 45 miles of motorway and 35 of reasonably free flowing A/B road).

£10K seems a fair price if parkers are to be believed. It's the same garage that the C240 came from - and they have a service arm as well and were only to pleased to sort out any warranty issues back then (claiming off the warranty policy )

Real world would be 40+ mpg from a 203 C220cdi. On an economy run I'd aim for 60mpg and on a gentle run 50mpg plus.

In winter a very mixed set of driving yields in my car approx 35mpg but at the time was seeing a girl the other end of Glasgow and driving in rush hour a lot.

Just now it yields 42mpg doing mainly long haul A road mountain road stuff, commuting to work (14miles each way predominately on B roads, a stretch of dual carriage way @ 60mph and some town stuff can see 45mpg).

Personal best from the car, as some members who have seen themselves is 54mpg gained by driving with economy in mind but no less than 45mph.

 

[stevesey]

Real world would be 40+ mpg from a 203 C220cdi. On an economy run I'd aim for 60mpg and on a gentle run 50mpg plus.

Just now it yields 42mpg doing mainly long haul A road mountain road stuff, commuting to work (14miles each way predominately on B roads, a stretch of dual carriage way @ 60mph and some town stuff can see 45mpg).

Well 50mpg would save me £1000 a year - 50s probably optimisitic - but high 40s sounds possible.

 

[flango]

Well 50mpg would save me £1000 a year - 50s probably optimisitic - but high 40s sounds possible.

My daily commute is very similar to yours and the reason I bought the Volvo long term average on my commute over 16 months 58.7 mpg. W208 CLK for the weekends so sorted. Before that 3.0 litre Subaru Legacy which suprisingly for the car averaged 34.1 mpg

Saves me about £1200 / year £100 a month minimum and funds the CLK

 

[wemorgan]

Only since so many other brands are now being mentioned I now feel brave enough to suggest an Audi A2 diesel. Mine averages 67mpg and that includes mostly cold weather driving so far. £35/road tax. 20-30k service intervals blah blah blah It's not as big as a Mondeo, but it's very similar to a Mk1 Focus, though in different proportions.

It's quite an odd-ball choice I know, so it's not for everyone, but just another suggestion thrown in to the mix.

Oh and with the money saved you could buy yourself a proper car for the w/e

 

[stevesey]

Only since so many other brands are now being mentioned I now feel brave enough to suggest an Audi A2 diesel. Mine averages 67mpg and that includes mostly cold weather driving so far. £35/road tax. 20-30k service intervals blah blah blah It's not as big as a Mondeo, but it's very similar to a Mk1 Focus, though in different proportions.

It's quite an odd-ball choice I know, so it's not for everyone, but just another suggestion thrown in to the mix.

Oh and with the money saved you could buy yourself a proper car for the w/e

I did have a quick look at a Y plate 1.4CDTi that was being part exchanged as I was there. 97K on the clock and they want to put it on at £4.5K!!

Whatever we get needs to be capable of acting as a "family car" for a couple more years - A2 is just too small boot wise.

 

[stevesey]

Prior to the 202 we've always been a VX family - so I'm now looking at this - Astra 1.9 CDTi - low miles, should do 50-60mpg on my commute. Savings would help justify a third car, or possibly a something a c320cdi for me later, with this being passed to SWMBO.

Need to check out what the EGR valve situation is on these (but as I remember that was only really a problem for school run type cars).

Then there's this Bora as well

 

[davidjpowell]

Bora comes in 3 powers from what I remember. 115, 130 and 150. 130 and especially 150 very fast, gives an impressive push in the back, but not so good on the twisty bits.

Brother has had a 150 for about 5 years (it's been passed around the family also in that time). Nothing serious has gone wrong in that time, depsite a serious lack of regular servicing. No idea how many miles on the clock, but it's been doing a 100 miles commute for the last 3 years.

 

[st13phil]

Then there's this Bora as well

I ran a PD TDI 130 Bora for four years as a company car and would thoroughly recommend it. Build quality is good and the VAG PD engines are bulletproof as long as they get regular oil changes (fleets tended to do put them on 10,000 mile changes rather than the extended variable interval for a reason) and the cam belt / tensioner is changed to schedule (60k miles? I don't remember ). Dynamically the Bora isn't a 3-Series, but it isn't bad either. The interior is nicely appointed - the Sport gets climate control, cruise, CD player, etc - the boot is enormous and they are frugal on fuel: I averaged almost 49mpg over 83,000 miles and you can easily get high 50's on a run at sub-legal limit speeds.

I also had a PD TDI 150 Golf and while the 150 engine has a bit more go than the 130, it's not as big a leap as the numbers might suggest as the torque figures are virtually the same. Fuel economy is about 5% worse on the 150, but still very good.

 

[chiefski26]

it's ugly.hope that helps.

 

[flango]

Bora is a cracking car I had the 150 PD and it was very sweet very quick and very well screwed together, it handled well nice and taught and power delivery was great, bit greedy on front tyres but a lot better proposition than an X type

I then ran a seat leon cupra witht he same engine and had it mapped to 197 bhp that car was awesome bright yellow but it attracted more than its fair share of attention from the cops until they realised it wasn't a boy racer driving.

In summary VAG PD engines a good proposition can be problematic with the fuel pumps on high milers so choose with care

 

[stevesey]

it's ugly.hope that helps.

That's why I walked past it yesterday - but reconsidered it later.

This is a bit better looking - 06 Jetta

 

[br0ke]

Jaguar X-type - talk me out of it!

Take it out for a drive. I really fancied one until I took one onto the road.
I thought it noisy and very harsh - more so on a motorway. It was an 05 model and much worse than my worn out 95 BMW.

I was very disappointed.

So I bought the CLK instead .... result

 

[corned]

Remember that old TG episode where they try and flood the shed of an XJ and it struggled to fill as it leaked so much due to shoddy build. Not much has changed in 15years

That was a Rover SD1, wasn't it?

 

[Pooroldfella]

My father has a 2.5 one of these on a 52 plate, its an auto that he has been driving for about 3 years now. The only problems is that the gearbox has started to whine at random for about 3 seconds under power, say mayby once or twice a week, the car is holding up well and for my money its a lot of car for the money. switches are a bit buget, room is a premium at the back if you are over Dolly Parton height.
Hope it helps

 

[crockers]

If you're looking for a comfortable car - fair performance then the Volvo S60 D5 may be worth a look...get a nice example for around £5k....I had one - an auto - and often got 45mpg+ and seats to die for..

Now some will think this sacrilege - but when I looked to change cars I drove a BMW 525d auto for the weekend and a Golf GTi DSG for a weekend - both cars very nice but each time I got back into the Volvo - the seats just said "why change"? ....Then I drove my Merc.... - still preferred the Volvo's seats but the rest won me over..

 

[Seamster15]

I have three X-Types pass my way in the last four months.

2.0 Auto
2.5 Man
3.0 Man

The leather is cheap, the trip is poor and the engines very thirsty.