Just been Laid off - Decided to setup a car detailing business

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Initially i`ll be mobile until i get rep, in time i would like to operate from a small unit so i can set up the correct lighting to do a better job, and specialise more in high end motors and post body-shop vehicles. But there may occasionally be a need for me to be mobile, i`ll be flexible.
Prepare for a looooong post!

Speaking from experience as a person who regularly uses a detailer it’s very difficult to find a credible mobile detailer who I trust to do a quality job, and who is happy to do maintenance washes and light detailing at the my home. I’m not alone and so don’t give up mobile work until you’re very sure it’s right.

Some detailers start out out happy to do mobile work and then after they’ve had a unit a while they stop mobile maintenance work because the more expensive heavier detailing work goes to them in their unit - bigger margins, less travel - I understand the logic but it’s a short/medium term view.

I used the same detailer for many years, and several of my cars went to his unit for a week at a time a few times each year, and it was worth traveling to him for that. However maintenance washes and light detailing are just as well done at home, and I was prepared to pay over the odds for a maintenance wash at home. Whilst he was at my house he’d end up washing other cars not on the maintenance contract, agree other work, etc.

When he withdrew his mobile business he lost several long-standing good customers including me, but I doubt he regrets it at the moment as his unit has been full with the bigger detail work. Also mobile detailing is often confused with mobile car washers - and the quality can vary - and so the perception of a mobile-only detailer might be different to a unit-only detailer.

The reason I say that it’s a short/medium term view is that he’s missing out on regular monthly income from maintenance contracts -or weekly in my case - but he also misses out on the next major detail, the next correction, the next major coating, the next alloy wheel refurb, etc. He was the default whilst I had maintenance washes performed by him.

Detailing is becoming more popular but the number of detailers are increasing too, and at some point that return business and weekly/fortnightly income will be missed as the market saturate, and it’s difficult to get that custom back once someone decided to stop. Like the rest of the automotive industry - such as car buying and car servicing - a little every month adds up to more than a lot once in a while - and leads to both more purchases, and more loyalty.

If I was in the detailing business I would ultimately have both a unit and a mobile service, even if the mobile service is later resourced by a less experienced detailer who knows how to do a very safe wash, and does it really well, but doesn’t do coatings and corrections. Cars need to be washed much more often than detailed.

Many people who are prepared to spend a-not-insignificant amount of money on a major correction and coating and probably prepared to spend the same again over the course of the year in order to maintain it properly. They’re also likely to have more than one car, and so make it easy for them to include their other cars on the same visit.

My suggestion would be to provide an incentive to have an informal maintenance contract. If someone commits to a maintenance wash every month then give it a coat of something in autumn and spring for the same price as PAYG. If someone commits to fortnightly/weekly then do every wash at the “small car rate”, and then when you start increasing prices as you become established, reward the weekly/fortnightly by not passing on cost increases until the following year.

All my own personal thoughts but a good mobile detailer is worth their weight in gold, and they will do well - there’s simply no competition. Whereas there’s lots of competition in unit-only detailing and cheap and cheeerful mobile washes.

Good luck with your venture, you deserve to do wel.
 
I'll say what I said previously bud, you shouldn't be wet sanding anything without a paint thickness guage, it's one thing doing your own car, it's another charging a service.

You've no idea how much clear you are removing, seen it so many times, people end up through the clear, or leaving so little that the base coat starts to fade with UV damage.

If you are seriously giving it a go, get the right equipment to help you do the best job, and get some training, this will reap rewards at the other side..
 
Prepare for a looooong post!

Speaking from experience as a person who regularly uses a detailer it’s very difficult to find a credible mobile detailer who I trust to do a quality job, and who is happy to do maintenance washes and light detailing at the my home. I’m not alone and so don’t give up mobile work until you’re very sure it’s right.

Some detailers start out out happy to do mobile work and then after they’ve had a unit a while they stop mobile maintenance work because the more expensive heavier detailing work goes to them in their unit - bigger margins, less travel - I understand the logic but it’s a short/medium term view.

I used the same detailer for many years, and several of my cars went to his unit for a week at a time a few times each year, and it was worth traveling to him for that. However maintenance washes and light detailing are just as well done at home, and I was prepared to pay over the odds for a maintenance wash at home. Whilst he was at my house he’d end up washing other cars not on the maintenance contract, agree other work, etc.

When he withdrew his mobile business he lost several long-standing good customers including me, but I doubt he regrets it at the moment as his unit has been full with the bigger detail work. Also mobile detailing is often confused with mobile car washers - and the quality can vary - and so the perception of a mobile-only detailer might be different to a unit-only detailer.

The reason I say that it’s a short/medium term view is that he’s missing out on regular monthly income from maintenance contracts -or weekly in my case - but he also misses out on the next major detail, the next correction, the next major coating, the next alloy wheel refurb, etc. He was the default whilst I had maintenance washes performed by him.

Detailing is becoming more popular but the number of detailers are increasing too, and at some point that return business and weekly/fortnightly income will be missed as the market saturate, and it’s difficult to get that custom back once someone decided to stop. Like the rest of the automotive industry - such as car buying and car servicing - a little every month adds up to more than a lot once in a while - and leads to both more purchases, and more loyalty.

If I was in the detailing business I would ultimately have both a unit and a mobile service, even if the mobile service is later resourced by a less experienced detailer who knows how to do a very safe wash, and does it really well, but doesn’t do coatings and corrections. Cars need to be washed much more often than detailed.

Many people who are prepared to spend a-not-insignificant amount of money on a major correction and coating and probably prepared to spend the same again over the course of the year in order to maintain it properly. They’re also likely to have more than one car, and so make it easy for them to include their other cars on the same visit.

My suggestion would be to provide an incentive to have an informal maintenance contract. If someone commits to a maintenance wash every month then give it a coat of something in autumn and spring for the same price as PAYG. If someone commits to fortnightly/weekly then do every wash at the “small car rate”, and then when you start increasing prices as you become established, reward the weekly/fortnightly by not passing on cost increases until the following year.

All my own personal thoughts but a good mobile detailer is worth their weight in gold, and they will do well - there’s simply no competition. Whereas there’s lots of competition in unit-only detailing and cheap and cheeerful mobile washes.

Good luck with your venture, you deserve to do wel.
PS Look up Tourershine, which is top end mobile detailing for caravans. They charge a big premium, and are booked up months in advance, because they’re mobile, prepared to travel and do a much better job than the majority of unit-only caravan “washers”.
 
I'll say what I said previously bud, you shouldn't be wet sanding anything without a paint thickness guage, it's one thing doing your own car, it's another charging a service.

You've no idea how much clear you are removing, seen it so many times, people end up through the clear, or leaving so little that the base coat starts to fade with UV damage.

If you are seriously giving it a go, get the right equipment to help you do the best job, and get some training, this will reap rewards at the other side..
I agree, I would steer clear of wet sanding a customer’s car. If you go a little too far it could get expensive even with insurance, as the excess might be substantial in order to keep premiums down
 
Bobby Dazzler, totally agree. Best to have multiple eggs in the basket than just the one. Maintenance washes can be performed anywhere, paint corrections however cant really be done properly or easily outside in windy or even breezy conditions due to airborne detritus.
 
Bobby Dazzler, totally agree. Best to have multiple eggs in the basket than just the one. Maintenance washes can be performed anywhere, paint corrections however cant really be done properly or easily outside in windy or even breezy conditions due to airborne detritus.
If you can get access to a unit, detailing in the dark with only the correct bright lighting really makes a difference, paint correction outside you miss too much, plus as you say airborne particles and then the sun cause havoc.

Always using panel wipe after polishing as well, another thing lots of guys don't do, means swirls and scratches stay filled with polish residue, which clears after a few washes of the vehicle leaving all the swirls and damage plain to see.

Panel wipe is cheap so another useful step to help achieve a quality finish.
 
Just ordered a paint depth gauge @ £150, i have actually been looking for one, i havent got a spare £500 to spend on a professional gauge but i believe ive found one thats suitable to keep me safe in the interim.
 
If you can get access to a unit, detailing in the dark with only the correct bright lighting really makes a difference, paint correction outside you miss too much, plus as you say airborne particles and then the sun cause havoc.

Always using panel wipe after polishing as well, another thing lots of guys don't do, means swirls and scratches stay filled with polish residue, which clears after a few washes of the vehicle leaving all the swirls and damage plain to see.

Panel wipe is cheap so another useful step to help achieve a quality finish.

I use a 70% ipa spray
 
Just ordered a paint depth gauge @ £150, i have actually been looking for one, i havent got a spare £500 to spend on a professional gauge but i believe ive found one thats suitable to keep me safe in the interim.
Keep your eye on ebay bud, I managed to get Defelsko guages on there in the past for £100-150, they go quick when they appear but a great bargain when they do.
 
I use a 70% ipa spray
That will do the job nicely :)

If there's anything you want to ask, fire away bud, I had to close my company down due to my knee being wrecked, but always happy to help people starting out.
 
One thing i learned about ipa spray, if you dont search for "CAR" ipa spray its expensive, if you search for ipa spray you get results for medical spray for cuts n wounds, same stuff, half the price & twice the volume.
 
One thing i learned about ipa spray, if you dont search for "CAR" ipa spray its expensive, if you search for ipa spray you get results for medical spray for cuts n wounds, same stuff, half the price & twice the volume.
I always used UPOL panel wipe, 5 litres was 15-16 quid, lasted ages. But the IPA is fine to use as well.
 
Good luck mate! I love detailing cars and genuinely if the same thing happened to me, I think I'd do the same. Either that or photography/cinematography.

I hope you gain lots of satisfaction from your new career!

Oh and some money too ;)

Take care,

Ed
 
Wishing you all the best in your new enterprise!

I’m in London and struggle to find anyone who is passionate and doesn’t want north of £300 to detail my car. Seriously considering if I need to book in! Would be nice to have a long drive!
to test your eyesight, perhaps?
 
Wishing you all the best in your new enterprise!

I’m in London and struggle to find anyone who is passionate and doesn’t want north of £300 to detail my car. Seriously considering if I need to book in! Would be nice to have a long drive!
£300 ist actually not expensive for a full valet/detail.
you probably have no idea the huge amount of work it takes to do a proper full job in out.
i work for a big corporation as a valeter/detailer and also do some side work, and to be honest i would not detail a car for less than £400/500.
when someone tells me that 400 its to expensive i just tell them: ok mate go and buy all the needed stuff and do it your self...
 
£300 ist actually not expensive for a full valet/detail.
you probably have no idea the huge amount of work it takes to do a proper full job in out.
i work for a big corporation as a valeter/detailer and also do some side work, and to be honest i would not detail a car for less than £400/500.
when someone tells me that 400 its to expensive i just tell them: ok mate go and buy all the needed stuff and do it your self...
Totally appreciate that.
I get loads vary in terms of cost and scope.
But I’m not sure where 300 gets you good value exterior only. Some others offer ceramic / hybrid / fancy waxes and so on. I fully expect super car detailing inside a unit for a week to cost £1000 but a 3 hour job at £300 for the exterior only had me wondering if I was being quoted over the odds.

I’ve looked into purchasing the equipment / and materials however I’ll lose interest hence not bothering.
 
Totally appreciate that.
I get loads vary in terms of cost and scope.
But I’m not sure where 300 gets you good value exterior only. Some others offer ceramic / hybrid / fancy waxes and so on. I fully expect super car detailing inside a unit for a week to cost £1000 but a 3 hour job at £300 for the exterior only had me wondering if I was being quoted over the odds.

I’ve looked into purchasing the equipment / and materials however I’ll lose interest hence not bothering.
£300 for 3 hour job it's expensive and wont cover the full car for sure, meaby just wash/dry and an ordinary interior cleaning.
me and my working partner usually take 8/9 hours for a full job, that's 2 people working in the car, if alone double the time.
around here most detail shops charge around £700/800 for the top stage detail, that includes wash/dry, wheels ,paint decontamination, 2 stage polish, wax, and full interior clean/wash (with seats out). ceramic coat it's an extra on top of price.
 
I wish you all the best. A friend of mine is a detailer and its by no means an easy business.

If you haven't already it may be worth getting accredited by some brands to boost your profile a bit. A lot of companies run courses on how to apply/certify products.
 
IPA.
Not sure if your aware buddy, but Koch Chemi sell Neat I PA and Upol panel, slims detailing usually have it in stock.. Just be carefull with dilution, anything over 70% is dangerous buddy, 30% is all you will need for general polish and wax removal
 

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