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Life with a tuning box

SimonsMerc

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Merc S212 E350 CDI BlueEfficiency Sport 256bhp, Suzuki GSX-650F, Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Dynamic
Well, I've had my tuning box for a couple of weeks now, and I figured I'd report back how nice it is :-)

Firstly, fuel economy. I am quite frankly gobsmacked. Regular readers of the forum will know that I've had serious problems with fuel economy on my car; I've been regularly getting around 25-27mpg in mixed driving, perhaps 30mpg on the motorway if I'm lucky, and as bad as 18mpg if only driving around town. This is based both on the trip computer and on brim-to-brim tests.

Well, I recently did just over 500 miles brim to brim (well I had about a gallon of fuel left). That works out at around 34 miles per gallon, which is pretty damn reasonable for a mixed run! I'd say that was about 70% motorway 30% city, but the city time was London traffic (ugh). Bear in mind that the best I have ever previously had on a full tank brim-to-brim was 415 miles - which was 100% motorway driving, and had 0.2 of a gallon left when refuelling. So I'm extremely pleased now!

The mpg on the onboard computer currently over-estimates, but not by too much. For this 500 miles, it was showing 36.5mpg - so about 2.5mpg too much. I guess that's a reasonable mistake to make, considering that more fuel is actually being put into the common rail than the computer thinks!

The most impressive part, though, it the difference in performance. I think my wife put it best. She said that, before we got the chip, you could feel that the car has to work to move the 1.8 tonnes of metal plus passengers. Now, however, you just hit the accelerator and it moves - it's no longer labouring under the effort. I'm quite willing to believe, after driving it, that the increase in torque is 35% or more. It simply *feels* more willing to drive. Also, overtaking on the motorway is amazing. You touch the accelerator and you're past the car before you realise it. It goes from 80-120mph so smoothly that you'd think it's doing 20-60.

All in all, I would thoroughly recommend that anyone with a CDI engine go for a tuning box. I have refrained from putting feedback in to tandem_tuning (the guy on ebay I bought it from, for £229) until now, just to make sure I have a chance to test it if unhappy. I called him today to see if he'd take a refund (he offers a 28 day money back guarantee), and he instantly without any questioning or persuading told me the address to mail the device back to, and that as advertised the only charge to me would be the 3% paypal fees and the cost of sending it back (£10 total or so). I am going to keep the device, but it's nice to know that he'd accept the return if I didn't want it! Now I'm off to give a glowing ebay feedback; well worth buying :-)

-simon
 
Hi Simon,

Have you tested acceleration times yet...say 0-60 with the box?? Yes, I 100% agree with you for ppl with CDi's not a bad idea to install one. I have installed a PSI one on a C220 CDi estate and its practically a rocketship...well almost...on paper it should be giving 177 bhp and around 370 NM torque.....on a car thats around 4% lighter than a 270CDi, so you can imagine the go! Fuel economy, Before I clocked a best (light loaded car) around 50 motorway at 51 MPG, but recently clocked around 54 MPG (but heavy loaded), I guess it's capable for closer to the late 50's at least. It runs smoother as well.
 
Oh btw Simon, I managed to sell those alloys of mine for £150 (remember), apparently the guy was going to refurbish them somehow...Got your new alloys from murrays yet?
 
Heyas,

Glad you managed to sell your wheels! I've decided to hold off a bit, until the time comes to change the tyres on the wheels I have now, and then simply upgrade the wheels on a wheels+tyres package. It works out cheaper that way, and it's easier to convince the wife (well look love, I'd have to buy the tyres anyway...). This way I also get a chance to upgrade to 17s (or maybe even 18s, altho I'm worried about the ride!).

As for 0-60, my cousin and I played with it and put it at around 7.5-8.0 seconds 0-60. Thing is, I've no idea what a W/2000 E320 CDI is *supposed* to do 0-60 so I don't know if that's better or not :) I'll look it up in the owners manual later and compare. Still, under 8 seconds to 60 is pretty damn nice for a family estate!

Wow, did you really say 50mpg? My next car is going to have the 220CDI engine - I sometimes so 30000 miles in a year, that's a *huge* saving!

-simon
 
Ok good strategy with the wheels...heeehee..i think should be doing circa 8.5 secs in original form.....so i guess your figures are rough estimates and not proper runs..i.e. like the tests they do for car magazines etc with proper instrumentation....i think it should rough cut 1.5-2 secs from the untuned times when measured properly....

Yeah, 50 MPG shouldn't be a problem is you drive sensibly on the motorway (70-75MPH average)...mind you that my baby lugger has over 100K miles on it already...!!! So, it's a good indication of the state of the engine..feels like new and just limbered up:) Tomorrow I'm off on the motorway again and will see whether I can touch above 55MPG...!

Cheerios..
 
Simon,

Can the box be unplugged easily? I'm very interested to see what actual improvements in HP and Torque at the wheels they make. Sounds very interesting!

Would be happy to 50% sub a dyno run on our rollers with your car to find out if your interested.

Charlie.

(Sorry for the blatent plug mods, am genuinely interested in the improvents these boxes make. )
 
Hi charlie,

Mine can be unplugged easily, I think all tuning boxes do...but since i didn't install them myself, had the PSI guys do it, not too sure bout confidently unplugging them myself as there are few wires running around. Btw, how much would u charge for a run on your dynos...?
 
vixpy1 said:
Simon,

Can the box be unplugged easily? I'm very interested to see what actual improvements in HP and Torque at the wheels they make. Sounds very interesting!

Would be happy to 50% sub a dyno run on our rollers with your car to find out if your interested.

Charlie.

(Sorry for the blatent plug mods, am genuinely interested in the improvents these boxes make. )

Hiyas! Most certainly interested. The tuning box has an RS232 connection, and you can disconnect it and put a "cap" on it (which I have, supplied with the product) which turns it off. It's also easy to physically disconnect if you don't trust it.

I'll pm you about the rolling road :-)

-simon
 
minyak said:
Hi charlie,

Mine can be unplugged easily, I think all tuning boxes do...but since i didn't install them myself, had the PSI guys do it, not too sure bout confidently unplugging them myself as there are few wires running around. Btw, how much would u charge for a run on your dynos...?

A Power test is normally £42.56+vat, however i'm sure a small discount can be offered for MB club forum members :).

Cheers,

Charlie.
 
Hi

Any chance of a plug and play chip for the 300 Turbodiesel?

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E300 TD chip

After reading about how impressed Simon is with his Tandem Tuning box decided to give them a call re my 1998 E300 TD. Apparently on this particular model it has to be hard wired in - but only four wires.

Guy, Brian, seemed to know his stuff - or he's just a very good salesman! - so after mulling it over I think I'll place my order today & see if it's as good as he reckons.

Let you know how it fares!

Col
 
colin.dillon said:
After reading about how impressed Simon is with his Tandem Tuning box decided to give them a call re my 1998 E300 TD. Apparently on this particular model it has to be hard wired in - but only four wires.

Guy, Brian, seemed to know his stuff - or he's just a very good salesman! - so after mulling it over I think I'll place my order today & see if it's as good as he reckons.

Let you know how it fares!

Col

Yes please! :D
 
colin.dillon said:
After reading about how impressed Simon is with his Tandem Tuning box decided to give them a call re my 1998 E300 TD. Apparently on this particular model it has to be hard wired in - but only four wires.

Guy, Brian, seemed to know his stuff - or he's just a very good salesman! - so after mulling it over I think I'll place my order today & see if it's as good as he reckons.

Let you know how it fares!

Col

keep us updated very intrested in this :bannana:funny init how we don't get the petrol heads getting as much out of tuning boxes...mind you their preoccupied with HP and completely missing the torque and MPG ;)
 
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Hi

Please keep us posted

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I am interested in fitting a Tuning box on my ML and i recently spoke to a chap who fitted one on his Peugot and asked him whether he felt it was worth the money, he said that there was an improvement in performance but was curious as to what was inside the box and so he unscrewed the cover and said that the only component inside was something that looked like a resistor and that the box could only have cost a few quid to make....he paid around £150 for it off Ebay (NOT Tandem Tuning)

My question is.....Are all these boxes the same? or do some of them have 'proper' electronics inside?

I emailed Tandem Tuning asking the above question but i have not had any reply.

Any comments?
 
This sounds excellent.

Are there any insurance and/or Warrenty implications of using this device?

I run an E220CDI Auto 43miles each way to work with 8 miles of country lanes and the rest is the M1. I generally get between 41 and 44 mpg on this run.

If however I do a longer journey say 60-80miles I get about 46 to 47 mpg.

Round town (short 2mile runs) when cold 22mpg once warm about 33mpg :crazy: .

Best ever was 50mpg on M25 after a long run and then going 40mph through those damn road works.

My vehicle is 2 years old and I thought about chipping but was told by garage about warrenty. Insurance was an extra 10% then.
 
Just received this from Brian at Tandem Tuning....



We can assure you that all Tandem Tuning Ltd products are based on digital technologies..

ALL our tuning modules contain processors which continually adjust fueling signals to ensure the smoothest and most progressive power increases possible....

Our latest units contain processors which perform calculations much faster than most car's own throttle position sensor .. Ensuring best performance with NO signal delay..

We offer a 28-day return on all our units so buy with confidence....

We look forward to hearing from you again soon.

Kind regards

Brian Williams

Tandem Tuning Ltd

Tel 01698 294043

Mob. 07732 603184
 
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colin.dillon said:
After reading about how impressed Simon is with his Tandem Tuning box decided to give them a call re my 1998 E300 TD. Apparently on this particular model it has to be hard wired in - but only four wires.

Guy, Brian, seemed to know his stuff - or he's just a very good salesman! - so after mulling it over I think I'll place my order today & see if it's as good as he reckons.

Let you know how it fares!

Col


Colin

Did you have any success yet?

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