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Maloo on Top Gear - How tax driven are you?

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Did anyone see the Australian UTE on Top Gear last night - called a Maloo

Awesome performace, and if you were being very tax driven about your toys I don't see why this would not by classed as a commercial vehicle for company car tax purposes (it is a pick-up) - saves £6k per annum in personal tax over the Monaro saloon -
 

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That tax position still applies to 2/3 seats as you say I think, but wasn't the 4/5 seat thing revoked? This is what drove the pickup sales explosion some years back, as the double cabs were as family-useable as cars (sort of!).

Wouldn't affect the situation with the Maloo or similar, but then they'd be competing with SLKs, Boxsters etc., rather than saloons and estates. £6k could swing it though...
 
And the £6k you save, one could spend on fuel, good times. :D
 
It certainly looked good on top gear!! Nice "yute"... or pick-up in this country!!!
 
That tax position still applies to 2/3 seats as you say I think, but wasn't the 4/5 seat thing revoked? This is what drove the pickup sales explosion some years back, as the double cabs were as family-useable as cars (sort of!).

Wouldn't affect the situation with the Maloo or similar, but then they'd be competing with SLKs, Boxsters etc., rather than saloons and estates. £6k could swing it though...

No, double cab pickups with a load carrying capacity of 1 metric tonne are "dual-purpose" vehicles and not cars.
 
No, double cab pickups with a load carrying capacity of 1 metric tonne are "dual-purpose" vehicles and not cars.

I think you will find they are not cars even if they are under 1 tonne capacity. The 1 tonne capacity is for VAT and means you can reclaim the VAT.

Now .... a Maloo with a 1 tonne capacity and you really would be quids in ................. getting the VAT back out of £40k
 
Benefit in Kind tax and VAT hinge on the 1 tonne capacity.

HM Customs and Excise and HM Revenue and Customs formerly treated double-cabs differently, potentially making a double-cab a car for income tax
purposes and a van for VAT purposes.
HMRC acknowledge that these vehicles present them with a challenge
when establishing the predominant purpose of construction because
on the surface many double-cabs appear to be equally suited to
convey passengers or goods. Hence they cannot come up with a single
categorisation for all double cab pick-ups or give a blanket ruling on
any particular makes, as the standard vehicle may have been adapted
in the factory, by the dealer, or after purchase. So each case depends
on the facts and the exact specification of the vehicle.
When deciding whether double cab pick-ups count as cars or vans,
HMRC will interpret the legislation that defines car and van for tax
purposes in line with the definitions used for VAT purposes.
Generally, if a double cab pick-up has a payload of 1 tonne (1,000kg)
or more it is accepted as a van for benefits purposes. Payload means
gross vehicle weight (or design weight) less unoccupied kerb weight.
(Care is needed when looking at manufacturers’ brochures as they
sometimes define payload differently.)
Under a separate agreement between Customs and the Society of
Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), a hard top consisting of
metal, fibre glass or similar material, with or without windows, is
accorded a generic weight of 45kg. Therefore the addition of a hard
top to a double cab pick-up with an ex-works payload of 1,010 kg
will convert the vehicle into a car (net payload reduced to 965 kg).
Under this agreement, the weight of all other optional accessories is
disregarded. HMRC has also adopted this treatment.
 
How many of these actually have a payload of 1000kg?

Most of these pick ups that come and collect from me often carry as little as 500kg when you actually look into it.

I actually thought they'd categorised them as "Lifestyle vehicles" and you were effectively paying the same tax as a car....

I'd be astonished if that Maloo could carry much more than the weekly shop.....

EDIT:

Here's Mitsubi****'s interpretation of the tax affairs:-

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/tax/

Note the important disclaimer:-

NB Tax liability can vary according to circumstances and we suggest that you check with your accountant or tax advisor to see what allowances you are eligible to take advantage of.


My accountant has a very different interpretation of these vehicles and told me not to bother with one unless you are in construction as they are generally taxed as cars unless you can actually prove otherwise...proving anything to HMRC is a right nuisance and on the whole quite impossible.
 
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More info on that ute here:
Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) - LS3 E Series Maloo R8

They took one in the AA EnergyWise (economy) drive in NZ this year, they beat the manufacturers figures rather well with a light foot:

"They reduced their fuel consumption by 39.5%, achieving 9.497 litres per 100km instead of the manufacturer-stated fuel use of 15.7 litres per 100km"
 
Thanks to Apial on the clarification of the Double Cab.

And so to recap .... this vehicle is a single cab pick up, and so is not a car, and so no beneift in kind (or much reduced if you do anything other than commute and business trips) and you can claim the VAT, regardless of payload. :D
 
That tax position still applies to 2/3 seats as you say I think, but wasn't the 4/5 seat thing revoked? This is what drove the pickup sales explosion some years back, as the double cabs were as family-useable as cars (sort of!).

No, double cab pickups with a load carrying capacity of 1 metric tonne are "dual-purpose" vehicles and not cars.

I think you will find they are not cars even if they are under 1 tonne capacity. The 1 tonne capacity is for VAT and means you can reclaim the VAT.

I should explain Apial & smillion, I meant operationally useable with the functionality of a car, not by a legal category/definition. In other words people got a main family "car" at a lower cost, as it was classified as commercial.
 
In other words people got a main family "car" at a lower cost, as it was classified as commercial.

Like 6-seat our Vito, which costs £185 per year as a "Light Goods Vehicle". A mechanically identical 3.0 V6 Viano would be over £400 a year because it's taxed based on the CO2 emission figure.
 

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