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Mercedes To Kill Kompressor

turbochargers are superior to superchargers in terms of noise and cost

There had to be an ulterior motive - COST!!! ;)

Will
 
Hmm turbo chargers remind me of the era when they used 'mega' 'super information superhighway' 'disco' urggh..
and the laggggggg they are associated with.

Granted they are using new technology turbo charging, perhaps it should be renamed so somthing else :p to reflect that fact.

Turging or Turger :D
 
Turbo Chargers give much more power potential and lag is virtually undetectible using a low pressure unit... however fit a larger one...;)
 
Potential for some good chip tuning in the future.............:D
 
Turbo charger seems quite 'boring' to me (name)
- needs spicing up a abit, like bi-turbo or quad-turbo.

Perhaps get Mr Dyson involved and have Cyclone chargers, even multi Cyclone chargers :D and cars will be air filter less :rock:
 
As the end of the report refers to smaller engines with turbos, how would you feel about an 1,600cc turbo E class ? or a 2,300cc turbo S class ?
No more V12s !!
 
Fuzzer is correct about the steering preventing the installation of a turbo charger. I was researching buying a W124 diesel left hand drive and over on the continent they all come with turbo chargers (E300TD and E250TD).
Never had a turbo charged car before, but i admit to being fond of the whining noise made by my Kompressor which reminds me of a jte engine when they open up the throttle...
Les
 
Went in a CL65 Bi-Turbo today. If thats what turbos do then I say bring em on. Animal car :eek: , just a shame I wasn't allowed to drive it. :(
 
mmm, I think the 5.5 litre V12 (or is it 6.5?) might have had something to do with that too!
 
Having all that power is not worth the horrific residual value you end up with for having a turbo on the engine. I have had 2 cars that had turbos now, and neither of them were worth a penny when it came time to trade them in :-( (Saab 93 convertible and a Volvo T5) Volvo was the worst as it managed to drop from 37K down to 2k in 6 years :eek: Give me a bigger engine over a turbo anyday :rock:
 
I've had a Porsche 930, a BMW 745i Executive & a Ford Thunderbird Turbo & have loved them all. The Ford was the most unreliable POS I ever owned, but fun when it wasn't having it's engine/gearbox/tubo (fill in the blank) replaced. The Porsche would get through lights which had turned amber from about 200 yards back (I know, I know. I was young & even more stupid) & the BMW would blow off Corvettes. I loved the noise they made & would find myself winding them up just to hear it.
 
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peterchurch said:
Having all that power is not worth the horrific residual value you end up with for having a turbo on the engine. I have had 2 cars that had turbos now, and neither of them were worth a penny when it came time to trade them in :-( (Saab 93 convertible and a Volvo T5) Volvo was the worst as it managed to drop from 37K down to 2k in 6 years :eek: Give me a bigger engine over a turbo anyday :rock:

If it's the turbo causing the depreciation then why do normally aspirated SAAB and Volvo cars plummet in value.
Or is it due to them being petrol turbos which have a nasty habit of failing at anything over 40K miles.
 
I love big capacity and Turbos however don't Turbos have a bad reputation for long term reliability...
 
fuzzer said:
Unfortunately not , its something to do with the positioning of the steering box. :confused:


It is no problem, really. All that is needed is to move the steering sideways and put a couple of constant velocity joints into the steering column and then move the steering wheel into the boot.
 
RichieRuss2000 said:
I love big capacity and Turbos however don't Turbos have a bad reputation for long term reliability...

Not any more take VAG's 1.8T engine the most mass produced turbocharged engine so far ranging from 150Bhp to 225Bhp. Most issues have been with the valves surrounding the turb dump valve ect very few turbos have gone.

Modern oils and the fact that turbos are now water cooled has helped greatly, this stops the oil boiling and turning to ash after the engine is switched off and hence leading to bearing faliure due to oil starvation.

As for the future turbo engines are going to become more common as they give out less CO2 than a N/A engine. The supercharger is great as it has no turbo lag but is slightly more complicated and less efficient than the current crop of turbo's. Hence MB looking more towards turbo power. Even BM has turbo engines on the drawing board for it new 3 series. But the twin pulse will be around for a fair few years yet :)
 

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