My 2005 W211 was manufactured in 2002?

[morzov]

According to analysis of my VIN, my E320 CDi was manufactured in 2002 ( 10th digit is 2) but according to the log book the date of first registration was December 2005, so at least 3 years later.

Is this possible?

The relevance is that I've been having severe gearbox issues and I had discounted the Glycol issue on the basis that it was safe to assume that my car was built post 2003 and therefore didn't have a Valeo radiator.

If the info I've got is correct then it could well be the glycol issue.

 

[Gareth]

Which engine and gearbox is it? I6 or V6 / 5G or 7G?

 

[E55BOF]

As posted by BlackC55 in 2007 - all the info you need.

"Humming/droning noises, or jolting during gentle acceleration between engine speed of 1200 - 2500 rpm -

Topic number​

LI27.55-P-019975

Version​

2

Group number​

27.55 Transmission oil cooling

Date​

04-18-2005

Validity​

Model series 203 up to production date 9/2003 with M111/271/112/OM646/OM611/612.990 and automatic transmission 722.6
Model series 209 up to production date 9/2003 with M271/112/113/OM612 and automatic transmission 722.6

Model series 211 up to production date 9/2003 with M271/113/OM628/647/648 and automatic transmission 722.6

Reason for change​

English text version revised

Complaint During gentle acceleration humming/droning noises can occur in the speed range between 1200 - 2500 rpm. Likewise it cannot be ruled out that the vehicle will jolt in the rpm range stated.

The complaint can be reproduced at any time.


Cause The complaint can be caused by a faulty transmission control unit, a torque converter lockup clutch which has not been adapted, a fouled torque converter lockup clutch disk or by glycol in the transmission oil, see Tips documents.


Remedy CAUTION:
Always work through steps 1-4 in sequence:

1.) The complaint is no longer reproducible after disengaging the torque converter lockup clutch on an experimental basis. Deactivate the torque converter lockup clutch for one ignition sequence using DAS. Menu in DAS: Control units > Drive > ETC > Diagnosis routines > the torque converter lockup clutch can now be deactivated in transmission mode "W" or "C".

2.) Only on model series 211 up to chassis end number 089500:
Check transmission control unit: AF27.10-P-9100AG

3.) Perform torque converter lockup clutch adaptation as per documentation in TIPS

4.) The following basic conditions must exist:
If the complaint is still present after carrying out test steps 1-3, the glycol test is to be carried out if the vehicle was produced before 9/2003, a Valeo radiator is fitted (perform visual inspection - crimping must be visible, see annex "Valeo") and the mileage is >10,000km.

Instructions for glycol test (see also annex "Glycol test"):
1. Fill 0.5 ml of transmission oil with the pipette in the small glass container (see picture 1).
2. Fill with distilled water to 5 ml (see picture 2).
3. Add a drop of "Tenside" (see picture 3).
4. Add a microspoon of "Periodic acid" and rock the small glass container (see picture 4).
5. Allow to stand for five minutes (see picture 5).
6. Add ten drops of "caustic acid solution" (see picture 6).
7. Allow to stand for three minutes (see picture 7).
8. The sample separates into two layers; an upper and a lower layer. Immerse the syringe into the lower layer and take up approx. 4 ml of the lower layer using the syringe (see picture 8).
9. Pour the fluid taken up through the filter into a clean small glass container (see picture 9).
10. Immerse test sticks in the filtered solution for approx. 2 seconds, shake and wait for one minute reaction time (see picture 10). It is essential to adhere to the timing specifications otherwise a corruption of the test results occurs.
11. Compare the color of the test sticks with the color zones on the test tubes (see picture 11).

Carry out the repair procedure corresponding to the test result:
- Up to 100 mg/l of glycol in automatic transmission fluid-oil: Do not carry out a repair. Contact technical workshop service personnel.

- As of 100 mg/l up to 400 mg/l: Exchange radiator and converter. Clean/flush lines.

- As of 400 mg/l exchange radiator, converter and transmission. Clean/flush lines. Return shipment of a transmission oil sample required.

The entire scope of repair must be invoiced to damage code 2743104. If the transmission is replaced, type of repair 1 should be used (unit inquiry with detail of the replacement part costs in € and number of work units).

Operation number: G 02 4609 0 glycol test

IMPORTANT:
Return shipment of transmission oil sample.
A transmission oil sample (at least 200ml) must be removed from the vehicle subject to complaint and sent back via the usual channels in the oil sample container mentioned below with the old part (transmission) or also without the old part to the Market Performance Center (MPC). If this is not complied with we reserve the right to reject the warranty application.


Attachments
Allocation
File
Designation
CauseValeo.jpg Valeo radiatorRemedyGlycoltest.JPG.jpg Instructions

Symptoms
Symptom
power transmission / Power transmission, function / Vibrationspower transmission / Automatic transmission / Automatic transmission - noises / Generalpower transmission / Automatic transmission / Automatic transmission - noises / Humming/droningpower transmission / Automatic transmission / Automatic transmission - function / Shiftspower transmission / Power transmission, noise / Humming/droning

Parts
Part number
Designation
Quantity
Note
EPC
Non-EPC
A0009890009Glycol test 1 (only use together with glycol test 2)1Ensure that safety glasses are worn during the glycol test.
It is essential to comply with time details; otherwise it may be that the measured value result is distorted.
The Glycol Test has a shelf life of 18 months when stored at 15-25 C°.
A glycol test kit is designed for 30 tests.XA0009890014Glycol test 2 (only to be used together with glycol test 1)1XW00058949980 0Oil sample container with label1Inscribe label of oil sample containerX

Operation numbers/damage codes
Op. no.
Time
Damage code
Note
Operation text
2743104

Production measures
Model designation
Allocation
Production from
Production up to
Scheduled production breakpoint
Production measures
203Vehicle9/2003Introduction of revised sealing concept on Valeo radiators209Vehicle9/2003Introduction of revised sealing concept on Valeo radiators211Vehicle9/2003Introduction of revised sealing concept on Valeo radiators

Validities
Vehicle
Engine
Transmission
Major assembly (1)
Major assembly (2)
Major assembly (3)
E-Class 211271722***E-Class 211647722***CLK 209112.955722.618***CLK 209112.912722.696***CLK 209271722***C Class 203646722***C Class 203612.990****C Class 203111722.616***C Class 203112722.668***C Class 203112722.618***C Class 203112722.696***C Class 203112722.667***C Class 203271722.695***211.226648.961722.626***211.026648 .961722.626***211.028628.961722.639***211.276113.9 90722.643***211.076113.990722.643***211.283113.969 722.672***211.083113.969722.672***211.270113.96772 2.901***211.070113.967722.901***211.070113.967722. 633***209.375113.968722.633***209.475113.968722.63 3***

This shows all the chassis numbers that are affected too.

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[morzov]

Which engine and gearbox is it? I6 or V6 / 5G or 7G?

I6 and 5G

 

[whitenemesis]

10th digit of my VIN is also a 2 but my car was definitely built in 2005

Post up your VIN and someone will check for you

 

[Rory]

According to analysis of my VIN, my E320 CDi was manufactured in 2002 ( 10th digit is 2) but according to the log book the date of first registration was December 2005, so at least 3 years later.

Is this possible?

Mine has a 2 as the 10th digit, but it's the facelift W203 which only came out in mid 2004 as a 2005 model year car.

If you fully decode the VIN you'll get all the option coeds and mine has 805 for 2005.

10th digit is said to be the model year, but doesn't make sense on my car - W203 is a year 2000 car, facelifted in 2004.

 

[whitenemesis]

I think it's a North American thing, 10th digit = year. In the EU it's just part of the vehicle specification

 

[Gareth]

I6 and 5G

Mine is also a December 2005 car (actually registered on Christmas Day!) and is a V6 with 7G, so it definitely seems your car is an earlier one registered much later for whatever reason.

 

[morzov]

Thanks for all the replies.

It's intriguing because my car doesn't have the classic symptoms of the glycol problem. It did have a bit of "hunting " when cold but thereafter ran fine with plenty of power. It's done 140,000 but a large percentage has been motorway and i know that because I've had it since 15,000 miles.

The problem is it has now lost all drive. I had the ATF fluid changed and it ran for about 200 yards before the drive was lost again. Now having diagnostics done.

So I had ruled out the glycol problem because of the year and given what has been said I'm really not sure now when it was made. Hopefully someone can tell from the VIN.

The VIN is WDB2112262A790646

 

[whitenemesis]

From MB's database

Datacard
Identification number: WDB2112262A790646 5
Chassi E 320 CDI
Delivery date: 31 03 2005


"Delivery date" here means when it left the production line

 

[morzov]

From MB's database

Datacard
Identification number: WDB2112262A790646 5
Chassi E 320 CDI
Delivery date: 31 03 2005


"Delivery date" here means when it left the production line

Thank you. It never ceases to amaze me how much info is out there and how willing people are to help. It has certainly helped me and helped me to take what some specialists have told me with a certain degree of scepticism.


So it seems almost certain now that my car won't have a Valeo rad and it's not a glycol issue.

 

[Dec]

My understanding is if the 10th digit is a 2 then its right hand drive, if it’s a 1 then its left hand drive.

Dec