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Cyprus - huuuuge import duty on cars - something like 100 euro / cc - so all the cars are low spec E180's (yeah- I didnt think they existed) etc.

so - at what point does a car become 'parts' - shell? shell + engine? Shell + engine + trans? who knows? Import 'car' to cyprus, import 'doors' (or whatever) to dealer - build car - sell for a fortune - old W210 E200's are £10 - 20,000 there! And they are rust free!


anyway - wheres my beta test head unit? :)
 
Rye, close to the Rye Harbour turning - car salesroom selling the sort of cars you're talking about. Lasted about 1-2 years then disappeared.

High Halden - showroom with American police and emergency services cars, lasted no more than 2 years and now only operates online.

Not sure there's a viable market over here!
 
Cyprus - huuuuge import duty on cars - something like 100 euro / cc - so all the cars are low spec E180's (yeah- I didnt think they existed) etc.

so - at what point does a car become 'parts' - shell? shell + engine? Shell + engine + trans? who knows? Import 'car' to cyprus, import 'doors' (or whatever) to dealer - build car - sell for a fortune - old W210 E200's are £10 - 20,000 there! And they are rust free!


anyway - wheres my beta test head unit? :)

I never knew that about Cyprus ... Interesting stuff!

The head unit has the brakes on at the moment ... The retailer taking it has backed away so we are trying to find another home. If no luck I will share it but has to be under wraps for now. I will share at some stage though as soon as I can.
 
Rye, close to the Rye Harbour turning - car salesroom selling the sort of cars you're talking about. Lasted about 1-2 years then disappeared.

High Halden - showroom with American police and emergency services cars, lasted no more than 2 years and now only operates online.

Not sure there's a viable market over here!

Interesting feedback ... I think yoneed to be pretty confident to pay the overheads of showrooms.
Also if American cars are going to be a hard sell then american ex service vehicles are really going to be a limited market?!
 
My question would be, How well do you know the market?

If you don't know a market well, you are likely to fail.
 
Dealing in classic cars of any sort is a notoriously high-risk enterprise with an extremely high failure rate within a relatively short time of start-up.

If you are someone who has been used to earning a regular, steady wage then I wouldn't even of think of going down this route if you want to keep your redundancy pay.
 
As a car dealer you will be governed by the sale of goods act,pick reliable vehicles you
can get parts for easily and good mechanical skills will help,if not factor in service costs,
the motor trade is a very tough one,think hard.
 
Perhaps time for a part time job and then do this as a "hobby" until you've understood the market and worked out what sells and what you must do to be able to sell these vehicles legally.
 
My question would be, How well do you know the market?

If you don't know a market well, you are likely to fail.

I dont know it very well but I am researching it and will do so as best I can.

Its the most important thing to understand for sure.
 
Dealing in classic cars of any sort is a notoriously high-risk enterprise with an extremely high failure rate within a relatively short time of start-up.

If you are someone who has been used to earning a regular, steady wage then I wouldn't even of think of going down this route if you want to keep your redundancy pay.

The model I will be using guarantees not losing money (unless unforeseen things happen such as a car blowing up after sale etc)
I will be buying very carefully indeed.

What I dont know at the moment is how much money I will be making using the no risk way of working and that of course could toredo the whole thing.
Still gathering data at the moment, so a few days away from having that answer.
 
As a car dealer you will be governed by the sale of goods act,pick reliable vehicles you
can get parts for easily and good mechanical skills will help,if not factor in service costs,
the motor trade is a very tough one,think hard.

Totally agree and this had been infuencing my thought process on whether I should go for classics or modern imports. On the one hand the older cars give some flex on condition and reliability. Modern cars would need to be spot on in all respects but mechanically less agro potentially.

Parts of course is an interesting one!
 
Perhaps time for a part time job and then do this as a "hobby" until you've understood the market and worked out what sells and what you must do to be able to sell these vehicles legally.


If I do this (and I do have other ideas) I almost certainly would do something else along side. I need to keep cash rolling in ..
 
I can help you with some stock for this start up business - I rent out garage space to a guy who has two yank tanks (a Chrysler LeBaron, and something else).

He pays me to store them as he can't find anywhere else big enough.

He never goes to them, they just sit there, and have done since I bought the house in 1998, so I doubt he'd notice if they went walkies :D.
 
I'll throw in something else for you to consider which is also car related.

I've sold my past 2 BMW 530iA's both 2001 sports to a guy in Lithuania. He send's over a truck loads about 10 odd car's on it and away he goes. He takes them back and strips them for parts and makes a killing from what he has told me. Also recently he's been buying new cars which might be cat B,C or D and strips them too.

Maybe you can look into exporting some of the cars from here to somewhere that they fetch alot more, either as full cars or parts or whatever.

Have look into that.

Business is business and in the end if it makes you money thats all that matters.

Ps. When you start making money don't forget to stick my cheque in the post ;)
 
Where did you advertise them?
 
First one was ebay and he contacted me and the sale was easiest transaction ever

Second one I emailed him directly then dealt with him over the phone.

Infact my dad even sold his Honda Accord Type V to a different guy from Lituania. transaction was exact same though.
 
Invest a little of your redundancy in a holiday to China that takes in one of the huge trade fairs out there. Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzen (just north of Hong Kong) are the usual trade fairs. Specialist ones are sometimes elsewhere e.g the stone fair is on Xiamen.

Find a product that is small enough and light enough to ship using airfreight and doesn't have prohibitive minimum order quantities.

Find an agent that will handle everything for you in China.

Avoid anything that requires sea freight until your business has grown to a size where it's the only practical option due to economies of scale and volume and your cashflow can take having capital tied up for three months.

Open eBay and Amazon stores and off you go.

Rule 1. Do something you know. Product knowledge is paramount.
Rule 2. Do your homework on taxes, particularly import duties and find out the commodity codes for the items you wish to import.
Rule 3. Do your homework on CE requirements for importation of goods. Example, if you bring in electrical goods will you need to register for WEEE compliance. Will your imports require Rohs certification etc.

Rule 1 is the most important rule of all of them.

The days when "Made in China" meant cheap rubbish are gone. China is the worlds factory.

You're probably sat reading this on a Chinese produced computer/phone, relayed through a Chinese made router, sent from a Chinese produced Server.

I used to visit a factory in Shanghai every three months to see a particular product being manufactured and check it in volume before shipping. The factory next door was ZF transmissions.

In fact you'd drive down this particular road and be forgiven for thinking you're in Germany if you were just looking at the factory names alone.
 
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Idea number two.

This is a Mercedes breaker and dealer in Belgium:-

Home - Garage Van De Velde

The place is vast and full of every Mercedes you can imagine. They also deal in brand New parts that are cleared in massive amounts when Mercedes Germany are overstocked or end of line at the factory.

The owner used to own a Mercedes dealership and has connections deep into Mercedes.

Last time I went there I filled a van with SEC parts, 20 pairs of front wings etc. All brand new.

They had just had a shipment of 300 brand new factory crate engines arrive, they have no idea what's arriving until they get there.

The site is acres in size, it's a fascinating place to go. There were two 600 Grosser shells in there and wire crates containing factory new turnkey AMG motors and Maybach motors.

Also forum relevant.

Free trade as you're in the EU and a nice easy drive through the tunnel and into Belgium.
 
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Did you achieve a decent price?

Yes considering I didn't have to deal with any of the BS that comes with selling a car.
 

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