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Next C63 will be a 4 pot hybrid

HHamster

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<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.carthrottle.com/post/mercedes-amg-has-finally-axed-the-c63s-v8-for-a-four-pot-hybrid/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Mercedes-AMG Has Finally Axed The C63’s V8 – For A Four-Pot Hybrid</a><br /> <br /> Count me out!!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I’ll be locking the M156 away then <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/thumb.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumb:" title="Thumb :thumb:" data-shortname=":thumb:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 139749" data-quote="Yex" data-source="post: 2811341" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811341" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811341">Yex said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I’ll be locking the M156 away then <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/thumb.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumb:" title="Thumb :thumb:" data-shortname=":thumb:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Haha yes me too! And apologies if this is a duplicate thread, I couldn't see another one but mods feel free to move/close.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hopefully “Fake News” <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> If not I’ve still got a proper V8 in the garage <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Here’s the second thread <a href="https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/new-c63-to-go-4-cylinder.254882/" class="link link--internal">New C63 to go 4 cylinder</a> It has a link to the first one.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 146518" data-quote="Atavus" data-source="post: 2811356" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811356" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811356">Atavus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Here’s the second thread <a href="https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/new-c63-to-go-4-cylinder.254882/" class="link link--internal">New C63 to go 4 cylinder</a> It has a link to the first one. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The interesting quote is “Of course, this is nothing more than speculation for now”. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I could see the C63 going with the 6 pot hybrid as used in the E53 etc but MB won’t sell many/any C63 with a 4 pot, no disrespect to A45 owners.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Seems like a good way to reduce sales of the C63 to near zero (who the hell will pay ~£70k for a 4 pot). I wonder if this is a feeler to check the reaction from the market and then say &quot;it's ok guys, we'll keep the V8 for now (but not for long)&quot; and then everyone rushes out to buy one!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 118698" data-quote="HHamster" data-source="post: 2811362" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811362" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811362">HHamster said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Seems like a good way to reduce sales of the C63 to near zero (who the hell will pay ~£70k for a 4 pot). I wonder if this is a feeler to check the reaction from the market and then say &quot;it's ok guys, we'll keep the V8 for now (but not for long)&quot; and then everyone rushes out to buy one! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You say that but the price for a four pot is creeping up already.<br /> The Mercedes A45 S is on sale now with a starting price of £52,145 and that’s just the starting price <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /><br /> <a href="https://www.carwow.co.uk/mercedes/amg-a45/news/4181/2019-mercedes-amg-a45-revealed" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">2019 Mercedes-AMG A45: Price, specs and release date | carwow</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It's a sad , yet inevitable way motoring for the future is going. Just be thankful its not all electric .<br /> Not totally surprised and I'd expect MB's competitors to go the same way, so looking to BMW and Audi for a new V8 won't help.<br /> <br /> Now more than ever, if you have never had a V8 AMG, just do it. They'll all be gone one day.<br /> I wonder who will supply the V8 for Aston Martin in future ? Is it the end for V10's and V12's in Lambos and Ferrari's?<br /> So many questions<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I think we should all embrace and look forward to the cars of the future. <br /> <br /> Stop hanging on to the past and get excited for what’s to come. <br /> I’m guessing some here still play music via Vinyl and CD’s. <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/doh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":doh:" title="Doh :doh:" data-shortname=":doh:" /> <br /> <br /> Move with the times, you may just enjoy it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 113659" data-quote="Happytalk73" data-source="post: 2811396" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811396" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811396">Happytalk73 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I think we should all embrace and look forward to the cars of the future.<br /> <br /> Stop hanging on to the past and get excited for what’s to come.<br /> I’m guessing some here still play music via Vinyl and CD’s. <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/doh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":doh:" title="Doh :doh:" data-shortname=":doh:" /><br /> <br /> Move with the times, you may just enjoy it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I won't be buying another V8 - the one I have now will be my last as it is wasted and I know we have to move forward...<br /> <br /> So I'm all for the change but this news still fills me with sadness despite all that!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Over a decade ago I was shocked to see a highly strung 4 pot 2.0 turbo in place of a V8 in a racing Audi R8 .<br /> <br /> Weight and balance is everything with handling and remember a 60kg difference just between similar cc early 90's Vauxhall engines, 8v Vs 16v turbo iirc .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I can't see a small-engined hybrid car weighing less than a conventional large engined one... the weight of the batteries will probably make-up for the difference. <br /> <br /> But yes, in essence highly-strung small engines have a huge advantage in terms of weight and balance. Which is why the SL600 was a nice tourer but never a great sports car..</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 140986" data-quote="Gazwould" data-source="post: 2811400" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811400" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811400">Gazwould said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Over a decade ago I was shocked to see a highly strung 4 pot 2.0 turbo in place of a V8 in a racing Audi R8 .<br /> <br /> Weight and balance is everything with handling and remember a 60kg difference just between similar cc early 90's Vauxhall engines, 8v Vs 16v turbo iirc . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> And only 32BHP different (pre-CAT 16v)...<br /> <br /> I had no idea the weight difference was that much between those two engines.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 19590" data-quote="markjay" data-source="post: 2811404" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811404" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811404">markjay said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I can't see a small-engined hybrid car weighing less than a conventional large engined one... the weight of the batteries will probably make-up for the difference.<br /> <br /> But yes, in essence highly-strung small engines have a huge advantage in terms of weight and balance. Which is why the SL600 was never a great sports car.. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You can put those batteries much lower to drastically improve the centre of gravity.<br /> <br /> I guess when battery tech improves they will become lighter.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53784" data-quote="John" data-source="post: 2811407" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811407" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811407">John said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You can put those batteries much lower to drastically improve the centre of gravity... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Lower than a 911 boxer engine...?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Is this downsizing actually improving efficiency and reducing CO2 output anywhere other than the homologation emission testing?<br /> Recent comments on Fiat's TwinAir and tales Porsche's four cylinder in the Cayman being thirstier when pressed than the previous six cylinder suggest otherwise.<br /> The problem (as I see it) is that boosted engines inevitably have to run rich under load to suppress detonation - bang goes the fuel efficiency. Despite Porsche claiming all sorts of trickery to avoid that.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 113659" data-quote="Happytalk73" data-source="post: 2811396" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811396" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811396">Happytalk73 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Stop hanging on to the past and get excited for what’s to come.<br /> I’m guessing some here still play music via Vinyl and CD’s. <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/doh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":doh:" title="Doh :doh:" data-shortname=":doh:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Vinyl still gives the purest sound Ant. Might be old tech but its still the best.<br /> Streaming loses some of the quality</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 21572" data-quote="AMGeed" data-source="post: 2811425" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2811425" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2811425">AMGeed said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Vinyl still gives the purest sound Ant. Might be old tech but its still the best.<br /> Streaming loses some of the quality </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> maybe, but it’s been and gone. I’ll ask my 14 year old daughter to start buying all her fav tunes on 7” Vinyl, she’ll enjoy having them sat in her bag on the school bus every day. Very retro. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
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