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Only 17 months for this!! :(

I'm currently going through the process to become a magistrate and when I hear stuff like this I question why I want to do it. I despair of our judicial system sometimes....
 
I agree that is bad... but cyclists are a law onto themselves....

Sadly, this type of behaviour is becoming quite common, theres a video on youtube of a taxi driver in Bristol who runs over a punter after a disagreement..
 
It shows the conflict of motoring. We dive for freedom, leisure, necessity. We want it to be lightly regulated. We want it cheap too. But heaven forbid we make a mistake whilst exercising this activity we remain defiant, we don't want to pay the full price for our actions. How can we expect to, it was the car's fault, the council's fault, anyone else's fault but mine.
 
What worries me is how far society seems to be deteriorating and what things are going to be like in a few years time. Is there a way to reverse this aggressive, vicious culture we seem to be growing?
 
What worries me is how far society seems to be deteriorating and what things are going to be like in a few years time. Is there a way to reverse this aggressive, vicious culture we seem to be growing?

We could start by banning cyclists.
 
We could start by banning cyclists.

Good point, cyclists are already banned from motorways for obvious reasons. Couldn't this ban be extended to unsuitable roads as well for the safety of cyclists.
 
Easy, bring back our troops from far away countries and put them on border patrol on all UK crossing points, ID everyone in the UK and send back anyone who should not be here or who threatens our law abiding democratic piece loving country.
 
Easy, bring back our troops from far away countries and put them on border patrol on all UK crossing points, ID everyone in the UK and send back anyone who should not be here or who threatens our law abiding democratic piece loving country.

Except for Northern Ireland, isn't the rest of the UK an island? What crossing points are you talking about?
 
What worries me is how far society seems to be deteriorating and what things are going to be like in a few years time. Is there a way to reverse this aggressive, vicious culture we seem to be growing?

The anger and aggression displayed at the wheel is just an vent for all that is built up over time... its a ticking time bomb if you ask me and I dont even think we are at the peak of road rage.

Have a look around you next time your parked up at a set of lights or in traffic, people are so "open" when behind a wheel but totally obvilious to it.
 
Easy, bring back our troops from far away countries and put them on border patrol on all UK crossing points, ID everyone in the UK and send back anyone who should not be here or who threatens our law abiding democratic piece loving country.


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Anywhere that brings people in by ferry, airports don't carry immigrants unless they take to the under carriage which ends up with a tragedy as we've seen before.
Ireland should mirror the England model too! I just think we try to solve anyone else's mess yet our own doorstep is being damaged beyond hope, we look after the very people who are not UK citizens and want to come here to blow us up or erase our Christian values
 
Im from Cambridge where we have 10x the nation average of cyclists. After my car my 2nd hobby is my Mountain bike.

I cycle too and from work everyday and only yesterday a Taxi driver would couldnt be bothered to wait for the quene to move pulled out without indicating into the cycle lane virtually knocking myself and 2 other cyclists off, he then started beeping his horn and driving up agaist us, I should have got his Reg number.

Yes there are ass-hole cyclists, and that cyclist in the video was prob making a point but the actions of that bus driver are horrific.
 
umm, just watched the video, its extremely condemning stuff but I bet the cyclist wound the bus driver off the clock by deliberately blocking both lanes and thats the only bit we do see, bet the cyclists did this for a mile or so, not that the actions of the bus driver can be excused!
 
It looks like its about 50 metres from a junction, id put my money on the bus driver turning into the path of the cyclist (no doubt without indicating) and the cyclist starts mouthing off.

Doesnt matter what happens, using a 5 tonne (or whatever) bus as a weapon is never acceptable.
 
airports don't carry immigrants unless they take to the under carriage which ends up with a tragedy as we've seen before.

I think you'll find that an awful lot of the people who overstay actually arrive at .... airports.
 
I have to admit as much as I am anti push bike, and that the cyclist may have noised up the bus driver, this is a blatantly actionable offence by the bus driver. 17months is in no way long enough for trying to kill someone.
 
'Gavin Hill, 29, of Frome, previously pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and causing grievous bodily harm.'

'The court was told Hill, a qualified driver with 10 years' experience, was previously of excellent character and his defence accepted the collision happened in "a moment of madness".'

Looking at it impartially, that seems to me like a reasonable sentence for this type of offence.

Or perhaps I should say, it is in line with sentencing in this country.

Keep in mind that for murder you get here 15 to 20 years, and that we very very give the equivalent of the US 'life without parole'. There was thread here some time ago about a 20-years old woman who was the gateway driver at an attempted theft of CDs from a department store in the US, and got life without parole because the store's security guy got ran over and died. This would be 10 years max over here. And Bernard Madoff, for non-violent fraud, got 150 years in the US... again, 10 years max over here, but realisticly more likely 6. Oh, and 13 years to Stephen Lawrence killers because of their young age at the time of the offence? In the US people get life without parole from 16. Good or bad, this is just how we sentence over here....
 

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