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SL280 problems

Nice to hear you have the straight 6.....lovely engine....in my opinion!....and yes, they real let fly at 4000 rpm.

These engines/electrics do have a couple of maintenance issues that rarely get looked at in a service.

1) Stumbling/surging revs. Typically shows up whilst you are stationary at the lights waiting for them to change. The car can start surging against the brakes and the rev needle will start hunting up and down.

This is normally caused by a dirty butterfly flap in the throttle body which causes a small air leak and confuses the ECU.

Its easy to clean....here goes....take off the trunking that snakes over the top of the engine from the air-cleaner. Also disconnect it from the mouth of the throttle body as it plunges over the edge of the engine on the right hand side.

Now you will be able to see into the throttle body. Inside you will see a round disk about 5cm down into the throttle body.....this is the butterfly flap. Spray some carb cleaner down into the throttle body. Get a screwdriver with some rag tied tightly around it and then push down on the edge of the butterfly flap. As it flips up you will probably notice that the edge o the flap has a build up of black crud on it. Cean this off with the rag and do it on the other side of the flap by pushing down on the opposite side.....this black crud stop the flap from sealing correctly.

Once done put everything back together again.

Now look at the trunking on the top of the engine, at the top right hand bend there is a sensor which is a push fit. Release this and you will notice that there is a fine wire element at the end of the sensor. Its likely to have a film of oil on it. Spray some carb cleaner and gently wipe it off with a lint free cloth.....re-fit.

2) If your car still has a stumbling idle move to step 2.

These cars are fitted with an Over Voltage Protection relay...OVP. The original relays that were fitted to the M104 engines had a design flaw in them which causes the internal soldering to start breaking down. This will typically manefest itself by the car stalling for no reason whilst coming to a halt and then being hard to start or you may just find the car hard to start full stop. If your car is still on the original OVP get it changed as it will fail....guaranteed!.....costs about £60 and takes 10 minutes or less to change depending on the car you have.

3) Still got a stumbling rev....step 3. Normally on the right hand inner wing you have a small unit called (I think) the EGR valve that has a couple of vacuum tubes coming out either side of it...this item has MOT stamped on the top of it. This valve can get a build up of carbon in it which will cause the engine to idle badly. Costs about £50 and is very easy to replace as it is just pushed onto a metal peg.

4) Water leak. On my E280 I had a continued water leak...all hoses, radiator etc were fine. Turned out that there was a leak right at the back of the engine on the right hand side....you can't see it as its behind the inlet manifolds. Turns out that there is a hose that goes into the back of the engine that has a small O ring sealing it...this can fail and cause the cooling system to loose water. The mechanic I use, had a look staright away at this location with a torch and noticed that the rear of the block was damp with coolant.

He replaced the O ring and said it was quite common for these to fail. I have no idea how he managed to get to it....looked well tricky to get at. But he did it and the price for replacement was reasonable and after that the car never lost any coolant.

Hope this helps
 
Vlad said:
Nice to hear you have the straight 6.....lovely engine....in my opinion!....and yes, they real let fly at 4000 rpm.

Hope this helps

What an excellent response 5 out of 5 for me
John
 
Cheers mate, couldn't have hoped for a better response. :)

I'll be straight onto that tonight, I'll let you know how I get on.
 
Vlad said:
Nice to hear you have the straight 6.....lovely engine....in my opinion!....and yes, they real let fly at 4000 rpm.

These engines/electrics do have a couple of maintenance issues that rarely get looked at in a service.

1) Stumbling/surging revs. Typically shows up whilst you are stationary at the lights waiting for them to change. The car can start surging against the brakes and the rev needle will start hunting up and down.

This is normally caused by a dirty butterfly flap in the throttle body which causes a small air leak and confuses the ECU.

Its easy to clean....here goes....take off the trunking that snakes over the top of the engine from the air-cleaner. Also disconnect it from the mouth of the throttle body as it plunges over the edge of the engine on the right hand side.

Now you will be able to see into the throttle body. Inside you will see a round disk about 5cm down into the throttle body.....this is the butterfly flap. Spray some carb cleaner down into the throttle body. Get a screwdriver with some rag tied tightly around it and then push down on the edge of the butterfly flap. As it flips up you will probably notice that the edge o the flap has a build up of black crud on it. Cean this off with the rag and do it on the other side of the flap by pushing down on the opposite side.....this black crud stop the flap from sealing correctly.

Once done put everything back together again.

Now look at the trunking on the top of the engine, at the top right hand bend there is a sensor which is a push fit. Release this and you will notice that there is a fine wire element at the end of the sensor. Its likely to have a film of oil on it. Spray some carb cleaner and gently wipe it off with a lint free cloth.....re-fit.

2) If your car still has a stumbling idle move to step 2.

These cars are fitted with an Over Voltage Protection relay...OVP. The original relays that were fitted to the M104 engines had a design flaw in them which causes the internal soldering to start breaking down. This will typically manefest itself by the car stalling for no reason whilst coming to a halt and then being hard to start or you may just find the car hard to start full stop. If your car is still on the original OVP get it changed as it will fail....guaranteed!.....costs about £60 and takes 10 minutes or less to change depending on the car you have.

3) Still got a stumbling rev....step 3. Normally on the right hand inner wing you have a small unit called (I think) the EGR valve that has a couple of vacuum tubes coming out either side of it...this item has MOT stamped on the top of it. This valve can get a build up of carbon in it which will cause the engine to idle badly. Costs about £50 and is very easy to replace as it is just pushed onto a metal peg.

Hope this helps


Brilliant! :bannana:

I HAD (please note emphasis) exactly the same problem with my 1996 e320. Merc specialists had it for over a week and just couldn't solve the idling and cutting out problem the car had. They suggested it was most probably a wonky throttle body computer, which would cost me close to a grand to replace! Considering I'd only just bought the car, you can imagine how I felt. Anyway, came on this site saw your suggested solution, relayed it back to the specialists, they did what you suggested and hey presto, the cars running like a dream!!!

You'll never know how happy you've made me!

God bless you sir!
 
Always nice to hear some positive feedback.......glad it was of help.

Cheers

Vlad
 
Sos

Hi everybody

I owned a 1996 E320 avantgarde.

I've just noticed that the red warning light on my rear view mirror no longer flashes when the car doors are locked. What 1st made me realise I had a problem was that on opening the doors with the remote access key, I noticed that both the red and green lights would simultaneously continue to flash for about 30 seconds after I'd open the door and was seated in the car (before the green light would just flash a few times and would have stopped flashing by the time I was in the car). I thought nothing of it at first, but last night I realised the red warning light was no longer flashing even though the car had been locked for quite a while.

Does anyone know what the problem is and how I may be able to resolve it?

Thanx in advance.

Yemi
 
yemi atiku said:
I noticed that both the red and green lights would simultaneously continue to flash for about 30 seconds after I'd open the door and was seated in the car (before the green light would just flash a few times and would have stopped flashing by the time I was in the car).

On my R129 that means the battery in the remote is low - check your manual.
 
BTB 500 said:
On my R129 that means the battery in the remote is low - check your manual.

Thanx for that. I shall change the batteries and give it a go when I get home this evening.

Regards.

Yemi
 
No problem, hope that's it. Easy to check if you have a spare remote as it's unlikely they'll both have weak batteries!
 
BTB 500 said:
No problem, hope that's it. Easy to check if you have a spare remote as it's unlikely they'll both have weak batteries!

Yep! You were spot on Bill!! I changed the batteries in the afternoon and tried the fob as suggested when I got home. The red and green LEDs are now working as they should!

And you were right about the problem/solution being in the manual as well. I did actually have a look when I first noticed the problem and I couldn't find it at the time. However, I had another look last nite and the problem/solution is about 3 pages 'after' where I thought it 'should' be.

Anyway, thanx once again for your advice on this.

Warm regards

Yemi
:bannana:
 
peterchurch said:
If you want a sports exhaust talk to hayward and scott in Essex

link
H & S

Excellent link. I've spoken to them to discuss my "needs" I was thinking of going eleswhere.....when I told them where, there was a pause, and then an "Oh"...it seems they get a fair bit of business form said place for, how shall I say, remedial work!

Off to Essex...!! :rock:
 
SRS light on dashboard stays on!

Hi there!

Yes, its me again!

I own a 1996 e320 avantgarde. For the last couple of week now, the red SRS (airbag) light on my dashboard has been flickering on and off. Now it seems to be staying on permanently!

I.m not too sure of the car's history, but I do know that since I've had it about 5 months now, the car hasn't been in any "knocks".

Does anyone know what the problem may be? And more to the point does anyone know any quick (and "cheap") solution? Or is this a main dealer job?

I'd be grateful for any suggestions

Regards

Yemi
 
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