Speeding help...

[A-AvantGarde]

I've just had a call from our Fleet administrator that my company car was caught doing 81 in a 70 mph zone on the Marlow bypass (A404).

On the day in question I had a business meeting in Birmingham and I was likely to be coming back home on that road at the time of the incident. My wife also came with me on this trip as I was only in Birmingham for about an hour. I genuinely can't recall which one of us was driving (about 2 weeks ago) but I also don't want to be dishonest.

Her licence is completley clean and mine currently has 3 points (within the last 3 years), my licence also shows 8 points from 1998/1999 (although I know these don't count now).

1. What do I do, if we can't remember who was driving?
2. What is the likely penalty point endorsement & fine for 81 in a 70? - would it just be 3 points and a sixty pound fine? The fleet administrator said that the letter is only requesting the details of the driver and it states something like... 'do not send any money or your driving licence at this point'

My fleet administrator wants me to tell them who was driving tomorrow.

Thanks in advance!

 

[blicky_1]

I've just had a call from our Fleet administrator that my company car was caught doing 81 in a 70 mph zone on the Marlow bypass (A404).

On the day in question I had a business meeting in Birmingham and I was likely to be coming back home on that road at the time of the incident. My wife also came with me on this trip as I was only in Birmingham for about an hour. I genuinely can't recall which one of us was driving (about 2 weeks ago) but I also don't want to be dishonest.

Her licence is completley clean and mine currently has 3 points (within the last 3 years), my licence also shows 8 points from 1998/1999 (although I know these don't count now).

1. What do I do, if we can't remember who was driving?
2. What is the likely penalty point endorsement & fine for 81 in a 70? - would it just be 3 points and a sixty pound fine? The fleet administrator said that the letter is only requesting the details of the driver and it states something like... 'do not send any money or your driving licence at this point'

My fleet administrator wants me to tell them who was driving tomorrow.

Thanks in advance!

If wifey is happy to take the points let her have them!

 

[Flyer]

Check here first: Pepipoo

 

[Sp!ke]

IIRC, this was the exact plight of the Hamiltons. As such, they couldnt swear either way and in the end neither of them could be prosecuted.

 

[pammy]

I presume there's no issue from work about wifey driving the company car?

 

[Robbo]

I've just had a call from our Fleet administrator that my company car was caught doing 81 in a 70 mph zone on the Marlow bypass (A404).

Blimey, I have been known to do 120mph on that stretch of road. Must be more careful methinks.

Bad luck mate.

 

[blassberg]

I think the onus is on the registered owner to show that some specific other driver was at the wheel. Who is the registered owner? Work? Lease company? You?

You can get your old points off by asking for a new licence when your points are over 4 years old, even though they only last for 3. You have to pay though and you get a two part photo licence.

Likely penalty is £40 / 3 points according to
http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_Home/SpeedVSFines/SpeedVSFines.htm
but don't know what £30 costs referes to

 

[PJH]

If the evidence is a frontal photo then that will show who was driving.

 

[MSG2004]

If the evidence is a frontal photo then that will show who was driving.

I think this is what he wants to know - so just ask the cops if the have a full frontal of the driver and if not, then it must be the Mrs

 

[A-AvantGarde]

I think this is what he wants to know - so just ask the cops if the have a full frontal of the driver and if not, then it must be the Mrs

Hmm, exactly!

The car is registered to the company and my wife is entitled to drive it, so no problems there.

So, if they've got photogrpahic evidence from the front that sorts out who was driving at the time...

 

[fuzzer]

i wouldnt be surprised if ...

You can't be sure who was driving at the time , the fleet manager takes the wrap ..

time for a good lawer me thinks

 

[A-AvantGarde]

i wouldnt be surprised if ...

You can't be sure who was driving at the time , the fleet manager takes the wrap ..

time for a good lawer me thinks

Can't realy be bothered with that to be honest, I guess I should ask for the evidence and see how it goes from there. If it's a fixed penalty then it's proably easier to pay the fine and take 3 points and be very very careful.

If you've done the crime, do the time... Well, it really is apt in a way - we're treated like criminals for speeding. Okay I (or my wife) broke the law, 81 in a 70 is speeding. However, the A404 (M) is effectively a motorway and those of you who know the road would agree that this would be going with the 'flow of the traffic' (especially if it is the downhill stretch);- this is where a police officer would use their better judgment whereas a camera set to trigger at 81 will do just that.

 

[Mozzer]

You can remember who was driving. Ask for the photographic evidence. If this sheds any light, relevant person takes the points. If not, you think your wife may have been driving that stretch so she declares - sorted.

Either way, lets be honest you will be paying the fine.

 

[Brett]

It used to be £40 and 3 points but IIRC it went up to £60 and 3 points a few years ago.

 

[Thmsshaun]

I would simply ask for photgraphic evidence so you can identify the driver. Chances are they can't and it will be dropped.

 

[SG CL500]

i wouldnt be surprised if ...

You can't be sure who was driving at the time , the fleet manager takes the wrap ..

time for a good lawer me thinks

If a car is registered to a corporate entity it is the Company Secretary who is ulitmately responsible and can be prosecuted by the plod if the driver remains unidentified.

If I recall correctly - under these circumstances they do not need to prove the Co Sec was the driver ( but stood to be proven wrong on this point). I do not know of any such successful conviction yet though!

 

[Benzowner]

A couple of things to consider. If your wife takes the points, and she has her own car, her insurance costs will go up as a result. Your job probably depends on your driving, with already 3 points on the licence, if you take the points, this only leaves you another 2 fixed penalty speeding tickets for a ban, but as your company pays insurance, no additional financial burden on your household visa vie insurance premium hike. A tough decision, good luck with it.

 

[mapleleaf]

If a car is registered to a corporate entity it is the Company Secretary who is ulitmately responsible and can be prosecuted by the plod if the driver remains unidentified.

If I recall correctly - under these circumstances they do not need to prove the Co Sec was the driver ( but stood to be proven wrong on this point). I do not know of any such successful conviction yet though!

So we took the new SL to Lytham St Annes last Saturday and on the way there noticed a trafiic safety van on a bridge over the roadworks on the M55. I dont consciously speed in road works so no problems there.

On the way back there were advance warning of road works signs on our carriageway and the usual 50mph limit. We slowed down and moved into the middle lane well in advance and again noticed a white van with its window open on a bridge just before the start of the road works.

Now I have always had B2 & a laser Jammer on all my cars for the past few years but havent fitted it to the SL yet ..... and guess what


YUP Sods law
The company I work for (& to who the car is registered) has just received at work an NIP saying the SL was doing 64 in a 50 road works area.

Thing is wife nor I can remember there being any actual works at that point - they were a lot further up the road we thought and the car was definately slowing down .... The SL had been doing 80 or so keeping ahead of a black Audi that was tailgating us for a while.)

Now the NIP is addressed to the company secretary and he can take the rap if he fails to disclose who the driver is. Now I can not remember (honest) if it was me or my wife driving so I need to have the reply worded in such a way by the co. sec along the lines of he doesnt know & can he see the video evidence please.

Any advice ?

Edit: I just called the central processing unit & they are sending a photo - I asked if it showed the relation of the roadworks to the signage - she said no but the picture does show the car driving past cones

 

[blassberg]

But you "slowed down and moved into the middle lane well in advance....."

 

[BTB 500]

Now I have always had B2 & a laser Jammer on all my cars for the past few years but havent fitted it to the SL yet

I guess many people wouldn't want to go as far as a laser jammer.

Is there any point in a laser detector? By the time it goes off, haven't they already got you?

I know you can pick up radar 'spash' if they're using that on other vehicles in front of you, but I thought laser was highly directional?

Anyway, good luck.