Speeding ticket - unknown driver

[Williamwoo]

Hi all,

The other day we received a speeding ticket ('Notice of intended prosecution'). We don't dispute that the driver was speeding; the trouble is, we don't know who the driver was. We know it was either me or my wife but we simply don't know who was driving at the time (we both use her i3 for most local journeys most of the time, as it's ideal for such things).

On the form, you mark a box to indicate that you cannot identify the driver, and we need to send a letter explaining what we've done to try and identify him/her. It also says we may be prosecuted for not providing their details. How can we be prosecuted for simply not knowing something? I don't know the weight of Jupiter, or Barry Manilow's shoe size - can I be prosecuted for those?

We've seen the photo evidence but it doesn't help as you cannot see anything of the interior (heavily tinted glass, which normally I hate!).

Thoughts?

 

[JHS]

Hi all,

The other day we received a speeding ticket ('Notice of intended prosecution'). We don't dispute that the driver was speeding; the trouble is, we don't know who the driver was. We know it was either me or my wife but we simply don't know who was driving at the time (we both use her i3 for most local journeys most of the time, as it's ideal for such things).

On the form, you mark a box to indicate that you cannot identify the driver, and we need to send a letter explaining what we've done to try and identify him/her. It also says we may be prosecuted for not providing their details. How can we be prosecuted for simply not knowing something? I don't know the weight of Jupiter, or Barry Manilow's shoe size - can I be prosecuted for those?

We've seen the photo evidence but it doesn't help as you cannot see anything of the interior (heavily tinted glass, which normally I hate!).

Thoughts?

Who has the least points? Who will be most impacted by having the points? Who is the insured as an SP30 will impact. One of you WILL be done.Take the hit and move on.

 

[Petrol Pete]

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[Darrell]

Does it state on the ticket where the sledding took place? If so, surely you can work back from there.

 

[ALFAitalia]

Say it was Suella Braverman!

 

[markjay]

How long ago was the speeding incident?

NIPs are meant to be sent within 14 days of the offence, most people will be able to work out where they were a week or two ago?

EDIT: Also, on a general note, FightBack Forums is a better place to ask for this sort of advice (or just search their forum)

 

[ALFAitalia]

To be fair....most days id struggle to tell you what I was doing an hour a go.....

 

[Darrell]

To be fair....most days id struggle to tell you what I was doing an hour a go.....

For me personally it’s quite easy. But it obviously depends who who can withstand getting the points.

Work records, site paperwork, photos taken on my phone are timed and dated, posts on social media, train tickets, toll payments, Uber receipts, shop receipts, bank activities, Strava data and even those camera doorbell things can all pinpoint where you were and what you’re doing. Even ask friends, relatives or neighbours.

Using these you can build a picture of your days and if a policeman had to trace your whereabouts for a specific day or time this is what he’d use and probably be able to tell within an hour.

 

[TC350]

The following will hopefully save you an extended period at His Majesty's pleasure:

Jupiter weighs 1900 trillion trillion kilogrammes.
Barry Manilow’s shoe size is 10 US (43 EU)

 

[Germgh0st]

As said above - decide between you which will take the penalty and put them as the driver.

 

[TC350]

It's the registered vehicle owner who is liable for filling out the form, and at risk of prosecution for failing to do so. Either follow JHS's suggestion or add a note to say it was you or your wife, but you can't remember which. Then leave it upon to them to pick a culprit.

 

[neilrr]

What does the police photo show?

 

[BTB 500]

We've seen the photo evidence but it doesn't help as you cannot see anything of the interior (heavily tinted glass, which normally I hate!).

Was the photo not taken through the windscreen?? I thought virtually all cameras were front-facing nowadays, specifically to help in identifying the driver

 

[Darrell]

Was the photo not taken through the windscreen?? I thought virtually all cameras were front-facing nowadays, specifically to help in identifying the driver

Definitely in America. Columbo had (and solved) a case using front facing cameras.

 

[BTB 500]

Definitely in America. Columbo had (and solved) a case using front facing cameras.

"Just one more thing ..."

 

[Skd884]

A human i know had 2 speeding tickets from the old bill he fabricated a name and used a empty commercial premises for the address, never heard from the old bill again.

Job done.

 

[Scooby_Doo]

A local paper listed about six cases of private individuals "failing to name a driver" in court a week ago, the fines were all the same :-
£660.00 + costs. Take the 3 points.

 

[Dippo]

Could you check google timeline on your phones to see who was where at the time?

 

[markjay]

Definitely in America. Columbo had (and solved) a case using front facing cameras.

Are you suggesting that Mrs Williamwoo was driving while wearing a Mr Williamwoo mask....?

 

[Darrell]

Are you suggesting that Mrs Williamwoo was driving while wearing a Mr Williamwoo mask....?

You’ve seen it!! In a W129 as well.