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Immaculate fully restored versions of these V8 versions can command up to 6 figures. I imagine its in a container somewhere winging its way to a new home and identity.
 
Not very good news for the owner .
My car is not worth a lot . But to sit down and count up what i have spent on it would make me cry. I could have purchased a newer car ,or bike .
Worth more for parts, but i would be pig sick if they stole my car .
For me its been a life saver .And kept me working to take my mind of other things .
I just have to push myself to do the jobs on it now .
 
Lovely car , but I do wish people would stop referring to modern classics as 'vintage' which shows they clearly don't know the meaning of the term .
 
Lovely car , but I do wish people would stop referring to modern classics as 'vintage' which shows they clearly don't know the meaning of the term .

It is on Facebook, though, so does one really expect accuracy?
 
That's a modern classic?! A W202 might be. That what was stolen looks highly vintage to me. What's the problem?
 
I understood the accepted definitions to be "veteran" before WW1, "vintage" between 1918 and 1930, "post vintage" or sometimes "PVT" (post-vintage thoroughbred) up to WW2 and "classic" for the 40s and 50s, though the term has since been loosely extended to cover later vehicles?
 
So they're fixed timeframes in history, not relative to the current year at all?

Where is all this defined?
 
Yes, they should refer to specific timeframes, though the terms are often loosely interpreted these days. The definitions can be Googled but I recollect them from qualifying categories in various car and motorcycle events, such as rallies and hill climbs, which I used to attend. Renault12ts interpretation of vintage is generally accepted: it covers the period post WW1 to 1930. The war years and the one month and a bit left of 1918 do not appear to count but I suppose very few cars were made and sold in November/December 1918! All very pedantic, I know.
 
Lovely car , but I do wish people would stop referring to modern classics as 'vintage' which shows they clearly don't know the meaning of the term .

To hear how its continually misused I think to a lot of people "vintage" now must mean "before Facebook was invented" or something.
 
That's a modern classic?! A W202 might be. That what was stolen looks highly vintage to me. What's the problem?

Thank you for making my point in my above post so eloquently :D

Clearly , the established terms are not understood at all by a great many .

Definitions of different ages of vehicles have been defined and accepted for many decades .

There are bodies such as the

VCC ( veteran car club ) The Veteran Car Club of Great Britain

They organise the annual London to Brighton VETERAN car run , exclusively for pre 1904 vehicles , which celebrates the abolition of cars in Great Britain having to be preceded by a man with a red flag ! http://www.veterancarrun.com

VSCC ( Vintage Sports Car Club ) Vintage Sports-Car Club

FIVA ( Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens ) Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens (FIVA) ? Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens (FIVA)

or the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs FIVA

all of whom define such things .

Here's a page from an owners club website which defines such things

Vintage, Veteran & Classic Cars

Then you can ask authorities such as Lord Montagu or Lord March , who just may have some little knowledge of such matters .

Since Classic Cars can be anything produced from the end of WWII ( 1945 ) onwards , a 1971 car really is a 'modern Classic' . Newer cars such as W123 , W124 , W201 and R107 are really just on the cusp of 'classicdom' .

Where confusion sometimes arises is where , after the war , many motor manufacturers resumed production of pre war models , for Mercedes , where the Stuttgart factories had been virtually been bombed out of existence , they restarted initially by carrying out repairs and maintenance to existing cars , before production resumed with the W191 type 170 , which was based heavily on the pre war W136 of the same type designation and used the same M136 engine as its predecessor - the two models look very similar , hence confusion is widespread . The same it true of many other makes .

On the continent the term 'Old-timer' is variously used to describe vehicles more than 30 or so years of age , and seems to be applicable even to vintage and earlier vehicles ... for more recent vehicles of interest , such as your example W202 , the term 'future classic' or 'youngtimer' seems to be gaining popularity .

Hope this clarifies somewhat .
 
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I understood the accepted definitions to be "veteran" before WW1, "vintage" between 1918 and 1930, "post vintage" or sometimes "PVT" (post-vintage thoroughbred) up to WW2 and "classic" for the 40s and 50s, though the term has since been loosely extended to cover later vehicles?

When I left the Army, I got a letter a few years later stating I was entitled to wear a Veterans badge due to serving in the Military.

I left in 1989.

So does that mean even the UK government and the MOD are incorrectly using a specific date range and I should have been offered a badge called "Almost Classic Armed Forces"..
lol.

(yes I know it refers to cars, but that explains the reason why people refer to these kind of words (age), when it has been applied in a subject matter that they have been exposed too which is way different).
 
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A client of my Mrs' recently said they were getting a Bentley.

Naturally she expected to see big Continental on the drive. It was an 1991 Turbo R, she described it as a Museum car. :devil:
 
This is a big Continental

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This is a big Continental

Sorry, I meant a good continental. :thumb: :devil:

(honestly didn't know they made a continental historically.)

Hey, I'm sure you'll be pleased to know I learned what shooting brake means the other day! :cool:
 
So , you never watched Jason King then !
 

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