Stop expanding the ULEZ to all the London boroughs in 2023

[buccal]

My 2001 55 is now ULEZ complaint.

Many thanks to member Gilberto in helping me with the process

 

[TeddyRuxpin]

Top story of the Mail online

Fury at 'out of touch' Sadiq Khan over war on drivers

Maps have laid bare the extent of the mayor's overhaul of the road network in the capital, with far more 20mph zones planned alongside the massive expansion of the ULEZ.

www.dailymail.co.uk

No actual evidence or explanation of how ‘even Labour MPs are showing signs of unrest’ in this article, of course…

 

[markjay]

No actual evidence or explanation of how ‘even Labour MPs are showing signs of unrest’ in this article, of course…

They are quoting 4 Labour MPs who criticised the plan?

 

[Dickster]

Funny, London has turned into one big construction site over the past 30 plus years I’ve worked there, but no one talks about this:

30% of London’s Particulate Matter From Construction Sites

Data collected from industry stakeholders shows that air pollution from construction sites has been steadily on the rise in recent decades.

www.twinfm.com

 

[Darrell]

Funny, London has turned into one big construction site over the past 30 plus years I’ve worked there, but no one talks about this:

30% of London’s Particulate Matter From Construction Sites

Data collected from industry stakeholders shows that air pollution from construction sites has been steadily on the rise in recent decades.

www.twinfm.com

Planning committees are now reigning in a lot of projects but with net zero etc the older buildings are way past their sell by date so they need to come down and make way for the new.

You need to break a few eggs to make the omelettes.

 

[Dickster]

Traditionally it’s been about making a quick profit, nothing to do with net zero. I don’t see any change there.

 

[Darrell]

Traditionally it’s been about making a quick profit, nothing to do with net zero. I don’t see any change there.

I’ve no problems there then. I’ve worked in construction in London since 1983.

 

[neilrr]

Funny, London has turned into one big construction site over the past 30 plus years I’ve worked there, but no one talks about this:

30% of London’s Particulate Matter From Construction Sites

Data collected from industry stakeholders shows that air pollution from construction sites has been steadily on the rise in recent decades.

www.twinfm.com

Not hearing much about the hundreds & hundreds & hundreds of planes that fly directly over London every single day.

 

[markjay]

Well, breathing any sort of particulate matter isn't good, obviously, but we should concentrate our efforts first at eliminating those particulates that are known to be carcinogenic or otherwise harmful to human health.

 

[markjay]

Not hearing much about the hundreds & hundreds & hundreds of planes that fly directly over London every single day.

Does their pollution reach the ground? Other than during take off and landing, that is. And even if the fumes are heavier than air, they are likely to be carried around by the winds a long way before hitting the ground - and 70% of the Earth's surface is water... I am not suggesting that it's good to burn jet fuel in the atmosphere, just pointing out that we should start with those pollutants that affect us most - exhaust fumes from cars at ground level and in very close proximity to where we live and work.

 

[Darrell]

just pointing out that we should start with those pollutants that affect us most - exhaust fumes from cars at ground level and in very close proximity to where we live and work.

Which is exactly what’s happening by bringing in Euro 6. Give it 3 or 4 years and those old dirty diesels will have gone and all that will be left are dirty diesel taxis, clean petrol engines and leccy vehicles (unless the price of leccy goes up).

 

[markjay]

Which is exactly what’s happening by bringing in Euro 6. Give it 3 or 4 years and those old dirty diesels will have gone and all that will be left are dirty diesel taxis, clean petrol engines and leccy vehicles (unless the price of leccy goes up).

The Diesel taxis will disappear first - all new black cabs are electric since 5 years now.

 

[Darrell]

The Diesel taxis will disappear first - all new black cabs are electric since 5 years now.

The last diesel TX taxis were 2018 and they can stay on the road until 2032.

 

[markjay]

The last diesel TX taxis were pre-April 2018 and they can stay on the road until 2032.

FTFY

 

[Darrell]

FTFY

One of my cab driver mates got his LEVC in June 2018, can’t recall if it was an 18 or 68 plate but it was a rare sight at the beginning.

It lasted until March 2020 which is when he got shot of it.

 

[markjay]

One of my cab driver mates got his LEVC in June 2018. It lasted until March 2020 which is when he got shot of it.

So what is he driving now? A Nissan EV taxi? Or did he buy an old TX6?

 

[Darrell]

So what is he driving now? A Nissan EV taxi? Or did he buy an old TX6?

A new LEVC TX and if you believe him it’s as shit as the previous one!!

Another mate has had his a year now with zero issues and the other one has got a 63 plate Vito which he’s thinking of having a Euro 6 adaption done to it.

 

[TeddyRuxpin]

They are quoting 4 Labour MPs who criticised the plan?

My mistake, I just have missed it

In other news: London is world's slowest city to drive in - study

 

[leef44]

My mistake, I just have missed it

In other news: London is world's slowest city to drive in - study

It's interesting, the study works out that London is the second most expensive city to drive in after Hong Kong. I was wondering how London was cheaper than Singapore and then realised it was based on fuel/energy consumption based on congestion.

It doesn't take in to account congestion charge or ULEZ. I remember in Singapore once when I was returning back to my hotel and the manager driving me back said "is it ok if I drop you off here and you can walk across the road to your hotel?"

My hotel was about 100 yds walk away but maybe 400 yds by car. By car, you would have crossed another zone at peak hour and would have cost another £4.

 

[ALFAitalia]

Give it 3 or 4 years and those old dirty diesels will have gone.....

That I doubt very much....they will last much longer with far less issues than the current Adblue Euro 6 models.....which struggle to run properly and without expensive problems after just a few years. People who don't live in London and other ULEZ areas, who do lots of miles and who don't want an EV or low MPG petrol will keep them running as long as possible.