Tinted windows?

[Doodle]

Having lost a friend to a driver who pulled out in front of him, I'm afraid I'll have to stick with the "They're illegal for a reason" line.

People seem to have enough trouble seeing motorbikes without struggling to peer through dark windows at night.

 

[Cyclone1]

Having lost a friend to a driver who pulled out in front of him, I'm afraid I'll have to stick with the "They're illegal for a reason" line.

People seem to have enough trouble seeing motorbikes without struggling to peer through dark windows at night.

Agreed. I'm not objecting to the law on tinted windows, it's more the way I was treated and the scale of greater and more impacting crimes being committed that should be a priority.

 

[Doodle]

So what you're saying is that they should have ignored your matter because there might have been something else bigger going on elsewhere?

They can't be everywhere, on patrol they can only deal with what they come across, which this time happened to be you. Had they been required for a shout they'd have issued a VDR ticket at you to wrap up quickly and moved on. An officer's discretion is not an automatic right.

 

[KennyN]

Maybe if people stopped knowlingly breaking the law then the Police could direct their already stretched resources to other more pressing matters.

e.g. -in the half an hour spent dealing with a chap with illegally tinted windows they could have stopped a drunk driver or someone with no insurance.

Sorry , no sympathy here for those who knowingly flaunt the law and complain when they get caught.

Kenny

 

[Cyclone1]

I don't have a problem with being done for having tinted windows which are not law abiding, I've already stated that. But I do disagree with being fined and treated the way I was given that I may not have had the windows tinted in my ownership and was not previously aware of the law involving the correct level of light allowed with tints. It passed its MOT with no mention of the tints.

Yes that 25 minutes could have been spent elsewhere, but in the grand scheme of priorities their time would be better served addressing more serious crimes.

I don't think it's acceptable assuming I would leave minors unattended in my car and did not appreciate their eagerness to want to remove the film when they know (from their experience of doing this not mine) that it leaves a terrible mess if not done correctly. It makes me more convinced they were happy to delay and take their time as they knew I was on my way to a wedding, they were happy to leave a 6 year old and 9 year old unattended for too long a period of time and from one of thems "humour", they knew what they were doing.

Like I said, I was in the wrong but was not happy with how the situation was dealt with. I dare say a different person may have been dealt with differently.

 

[Alex]

Having removed tints from my car I can say that all I needed was a heat gun. Preheated the film peeled right off. Some windows had a sticky residue that came off with a few squirts of WD40.

I would imagine doing it outside and not preheating the glass it would be much more difficult.

Maybe I should enroll to the tins & fake badges police. I'd use SPX's method of hammer and chisel on everything and make owners' lives a proper misery

 

[Doodle]

I don't have a problem with being done for having tinted windows which are not law abiding, I've already stated that. But I do disagree with being fined and treated the way I was given that I may not have had the windows tinted in my ownership and was not previously aware of the law involving the correct level of light allowed with tints. It passed its MOT with no mention of the tints.

Yes that 25 minutes could have been spent elsewhere, but in the grand scheme of priorities their time would be better served addressing more serious crimes.

I don't think it's acceptable assuming I would leave minors unattended in my car and did not appreciate their eagerness to want to remove the film when they know (from their experience of doing this not mine) that it leaves a terrible mess if not done correctly. It makes me more convinced they were happy to delay and take their time as they knew I was on my way to a wedding, they were happy to leave a 6 year old and 9 year old unattended for too long a period of time and from one of thems "humour", they knew what they were doing.

Like I said, I was in the wrong but was not happy with how the situation was dealt with. I dare say a different person may have been dealt with differently.

The windows are not subject to MoT check, they are a Construction and Use matter. Ignorance does not constitute a legal defence. However, if the vehicle was sold to you in that condition by a dealer you would be within your rights to seek redress from him.

If you believe you've been treated unacceptably, I would suggest addressing your concerns to the Chief Constable, lest it appear to be just a public toy-throwing about being caught out.

 

[Cyclone1]

You're right Alx they need removing properly (which the police won't use a heat gun) or they end up with a lot of glue residue on the windows if just stripped off.

I decided to remove the film the way the police would and it left large patches of glue residue on the window, to a point where it obscures the view incredibly. I would go as far as saying it would make visibility more obscured than leaving the tint in place and having it removed properly.

I used a safe version of white spirit applied to the glue for a few seconds then worked off the glue as it softened with a credit card. Slow process but works.

 

[brucemillar]

The issue that the Police is one of 'doomed if they do & doomed if they do not'.

Take no action and allow you on your way and it then results in a fatality! We can read the headlines now "Why did the Police not act?"

As I understand it? They could have made you leave the vehicle where it was until it was made legal again.

Agree with Doodle here. You can (I have) write to the either PCC or the Chief Constable and complain about how you were treated/attitude. But you must balance this with how you reacted in the first instance, bearing in mind that you were committing and offense.

Sadly there is only really black & white and no grey.

 

[Cyclone1]

The windows are not subject to MoT check, they are a Construction and Use matter. Ignorance does not constitute a legal defence. However, if the vehicle was sold to you in that condition by a dealer you would be within your rights to seek redress from him.

If you believe you've been treated unacceptably, I would suggest addressing your concerns to the Chief Constable, lest it appear to be just a public toy-throwing about being caught out.

Please don't turn this thread into something it isn't.

Not for the first time I accept that I was in the wrong, but am not happy with the treatment I received. That's all. I am not looking for people to debate it I am just stating my feelings on the situation and accept your viewpoint.

We all know there are many wrong doings on the roads with vehicles, people speeding, road rage, using your mobile phone, dodgy number plates, false MOT's etc etc but people knowingly do them. I would say that the vast majority of drivers have done at least one of the above. If you get caught then rightly so.

 

[Doodle]

Please don't turn this thread into something it isn't.

If you feel that giving responses on the objective points you raise constitutes that, then that is your conclusion to draw.

On the subjective matter of how you were treated, as was said before - if you're not happy with it, raise it with them.

 

[Cyclone1]

If you feel that giving responses on the objective points you raise constitutes that, then that is your conclusion to draw.

On the subjective matter of how you were treated, as was said before - if you're not happy with it, raise it with them.

Exactly. Plus your point raised has been noted.

 

[Doc matt]

MOT's etc

Ah you've just reminded me. Must get the CLS63 MOT'd

 

[E55BOF]

Just don't ask them: "Is it because my car is black?"