Tyre size?

[Gollom]

Will (should) that setup pass an MoT?

That thought occurred to me, but it has passed three whilst in my ownership

 

[colinallcars]

That thought occurred to me, but it has passed three whilst in my ownership

That’s the ‘should’ bit of the question! Personally, I’d feel pretty uncomfortable with it.

 

[Chrishazle]

What's the statute of limitations on a car you've bought being "not as advertised"? Car has had 3 MoT's in Gollum's ownership so assume he bought it 3-4 years ago, car should not have mis-matched rims on one axle, plus was advertised with AMG wheels which it does not seem to have. Is it too late to "suggest" the selling dealer should correct the error??

 

[Gollom]

What's the statute of limitations on a car you've bought being "not as advertised"? Car has had 3 MoT's in Gollum's ownership so assume he bought it 3-4 years ago, car should not have mis-matched rims on one axle, plus was advertised with AMG wheels which it does not seem to have. Is it too late to "suggest" the selling dealer should correct the error??

Yes, was advertised with AMG wheels. The car was bought from an esteemed member/dealer of this forum and I am 100% confident he would not have known the situation. I mean, who checks all wheels are correct? It was only when they came off an were stripped down ready for powder coating it became apparent! I am guessing they laid the rims out and someone thought "just a minute, something looks wrong!"

In fact, I am even loath to mention it to him - after all what can he do!!

That’s the ‘should’ bit of the question! Personally, I’d feel pretty uncomfortable with it.

Given that the same tyre types will be on each wheel, not sure if would matter in the real world? That is an open question BTW, not a dig

 

[colinallcars]

Yes, was advertised with AMG wheels. The car was bought from an esteemed member/dealer of this forum and I am 100% confident he would not have known the situation. I mean, who checks all wheels are correct? It was only when they came off an were stripped down ready for powder coating it became apparent! I am guessing they laid the rims out and someone thought "just a minute, something looks wrong!"

In fact, I am even loath to mention it to him - after all what can he do!!


Given that the same tyre types will be on each wheel, not sure if would matter in the real world? That is an open question BTW, not a dig

I don’t know but, as I say, I’d be uncomfortable with it and would want to correct it asap. Presumably it would just need one wheel changing whichever way you went (2 x broad & 2 x narrow or 4 x narrow). That should give a bit more scope for searching on eBay or the likes.

 

[Smiley]

Probably too late now but I would have bought a second hand set of the correct wheels and then had those refurbished, then sold the existing - but that would have been a difficult sale because it is not a usable set. On balance I would go back to the seller even after 3 years - they have been "stitched up" by a previous owner - and there is always a chance that an eagle eyed MOT tester will spot it one day.

 

[Gollom]

HELP! What would you do? New wheels ideally but that is simply financially impossible

Pondering putting different width tyres on the two front rims (225 and 235). Cannot see anything in the MOT manual indicating it would be illegal and everything we have researched suggests that it would not affect handling or be dangerous. Comments?

He has just sent pics to me - from the first one you can see how someone spotted the issue! I seem to have 3 x 18X8.5JJ and 1 x 18X8.5JJ

 

[BigJase88]

That is not ideal. I would be looking at picking up a loose 8J one to make a proper set.

I mean aslong as you use the same profile tyres on an axle then it will pass the MOT as the inspector won't be able to tell without having each alloy side by side the difference.

It is still not great and not what i would chose to fit on my car

 

[Gollom]

That is not ideal. I would be looking at picking up a loose 8J one to make a proper set.

I mean aslong as you use the same profile tyres on an axle then it will pass the MOT as the inspector won't be able to tell without having each alloy side by side the difference.

It is still not great and not what i would chose to fit on my car

Ta. Searched and cannot find a matching wheel anywhere (design is shown in my profile pic)

Between a rock and a hard place sadly

 

[ChrisHGTV]

Ta. Searched and cannot find a matching wheel anywhere (design is shown in my profile pic)

Between a rock and a hard place sadly

Personally i would go back to the dealer and see what they say. You never know they may be willing/able to help you out even if it means buying a couple of cheap alloys the correct size. I wouldn't feel comfortable driving with mis-matched wheels on an axle but then there is also an argument that you've been driving around for years without issue. Could you hold fire on the refurb of two of the wheels to free funds to buy two used wheels that match?

 

[OneForTheRoad]

I seem to have 3 x 18X8.5JJ and 1 x 18X8.5JJ

That'll be 4 the same then.

My e350 has 4 x 8.5 rims fitted with 235 tyres, front . And 255 rears.

AFAIK it's illegal to run with different sizes on the same axle . Tyres or rims .

 

[colinallcars]

Ta. Searched and cannot find a matching wheel anywhere (design is shown in my profile pic)

Between a rock and a hard place sadly

You know what you should do!
Have you asked if the refurbisher can help?

 

[Gollom]

I seem to have 3 x 18X8.5JJ and 1 x 18X8.5JJ

That'll be 4 the same then.

My e350 has 4 x 8.5 rims fitted with 235 tyres, front . And 255 rears.

AFAIK it's illegal to run with different sizes on the same axle . Tyres or rims .

Oops! 3 x 18X8.5JJ and 1 x 18X8JJ

 

[Chrishazle]

Steve, you really have no choice but to either source a single 18x8J rim to have a staggered setup with different size tyres front and rear, something like 225/45 front and 245/40 rear (as I have on both my cars) or source a single 18x8.5JJ and have the same size tyres all round. Are there any part numbers etc stamped on the inside of the rims, I tried Google for the 18x8JJ 113 6818 I could see from the first photos you showed on here and the first suggestion from Google was that that it was a BMW wheel!

 

[Gollom]

Steve, you really have no choice but to either source a single 18x8J rim to have a staggered setup with different size tyres front and rear, something like 225/45 front and 245/40 rear (as I have on both my cars) or source a single 18x8.5JJ and have the same size tyres all round. Are there any part numbers etc stamped on the inside of the rims, I tried Google for the 18x8JJ 113 6818 I could see from the first photos you showed on here and the first suggestion from Google was that that it was a BMW wheel!

That is quite possible - we think the guy who sold the car on took off the original AMG wheels and appears to have simply thrown any old wheels on!

I have contacted Jay at Mercland who as I suspected is horrified - says they should have spotted it but TBH not sure just how they would have spotted that level of detail! But he is trying to help which IMHO is above and beyond the call of duty!

How would I find out the part number for the wheels that SHOULD have been on the car?

 

[OneForTheRoad]

Steve, you really have no choice but to either source a single 18x8J rim to have a staggered setup with different size tyres front and rear, something like 225/45 front and 245/40 rear (as I have on both my cars) or source a single 18x8.5JJ and have the same size tyres all round. Are there any part numbers etc stamped on the inside of the rims, I tried Google for the 18x8JJ 113 6818 I could see from the first photos you showed on here and the first suggestion from Google was that that it was a BMW wheel!

Or source another 8.5 rim and still have a staggered set up.

 

[Gollom]

Or source another 8.5 rim and still have a staggered set up.

That's the issue - a matching rim is proving impossible to find! Trying to find the MB part nuber as we speak

VIN says

782	AMG-SPOKEN WEELS 18" MIXED TIRES

 

[OneForTheRoad]

That's the issue - a matching rim is proving impossible to find! Trying to find the MB part nuber as we speak

VIN says

782	AMG-SPOKEN WEELS 18" MIXED TIRES

Same set up as my e350 . 8.5 rims , staggered tyres. Mb part numbers will on the rims fitted now . If not then they're copies.

 

[Gollom]

Same set up as my e350 . 8.5 rims , staggered tyres. Mb part numbers will on the rims fitted now . If not then they're copies.

That is quite possible - we think the guy who sold the car on took off the original AMG wheels and appears to have simply thrown any old wheels on!

 

[BTB 500]

AFAIK it's illegal to run with different sizes on the same axle . Tyres or rims .

It can't be illegal or you wouldn't be able to use a space saver spare. Those are intended for 'temporary' use but AFAIK there's no legal restriction on time or distance (just speed ... normally 50 mph).
Different sized tyres is an MOT fail, but having the same each side on different rims (the OP's setup, I think) isn't:



There is one exception to the above: