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W123 headlining.

samuelsmiles

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Hello all.

I need to do some repairs to the sunroof panel/cassette on my saloon and want to get a better look and access from inside the car.

The headlining looks as though it is attached to individual panels which can just be unclipped from the ceiling.

I'm guessing it can't be this easy though.

Has anyone experience of this please?

Chris
 
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No they cannot...

You need to remove all the inner door seals, front and rear ceiling panels, sunroof bits, rear window seal and then you may have a chance of removing it.
Even then chances are it will rip and never go back properly..

Dont do it.
 
Thank you for your advice/warning.

I'll just do the repairs the best I can from the outside of the car then.

Just as an aside regarding the four drain holes at each corner of the sunroof. Is it rubber hosing that goes down the A and C pillars for the water to escape?

Chris.
 
Yes the hoses run inside the car and out past into rear arches and similarly front.
 
Hi,

I'm working on the front part of the sunroof cassette; cleaning, rust curing and hole fixing with resin/fibreglass. The front part where the drain holes are is quite accessible and fixable, but I need to get better access to the rear of the sunroof cassette to check and see if that too needs some work (I'm sure it does)

To get better access I will need to remove the sunroof panel, is this possible and if so how can this be done?

Chris
 
Hi , as Jay says , dropping the headlining is not easy to do without damage .

However , if you are just trying to fix a leaking drain ( they rust where the pipes exit from the corners of the cassettes ) you may be able to gain enough access just by dropping the edge of the headlining at the top of a door ( I did this on my 190E and made a repair by cutting away the rust and using fibreglass - not an ideal repair but lasted as long as I had the car ) . To do this it was neccessary to pull down the door seal from the top , and remove the grab handle from above the door .

It has been so long since I had a W123 apart that I can't remember clearly , but on my W126 , once the rear roof and C post trims are removed , the back end of the headlining can be removed without difficulty , but it does not go all the way to the window on that model .

Removing the sunroof door is easy - slide the roof back and the headlining of the sliding panel can be popped down at the front edge and slid out in a forwards direction . If you have an estate with the manual as opposed to electric sunroof then you first will need to remove the trim around the handle . With the headlining out of the way , close the roof again and you will see the bolts holding the panel to the mechanism - unbolt and remove .

If yours is a particularly good W123 , or you plan to restore and keep it for a while , you might want to consider a professional repair - Mark Cosovich , a W123 specialist , normally keeps a couple of refurbished cassettes ( rust cut out , new drains welded in and repainted ) in stock and can either replace yours for you , or will supply a repaired cassette on an exchange basis against your old one . Mark normally advises removal of the rear window to get the cassette out of the car , although I think it should be possible if you take all the seats out to get room to manoeuvre inside the car and bring it out of one of the back doors .
 
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If its encouraging at all. I've removed and replaced the headlining on the 126 without mishap at all. Hadn't done it before but just did it methodically and it wasn't hard.
If the 123 one is similar it will be do-able. It was just all the trim that made it time consuming.
 
Well, I know this thread is old, but today I decided it was time to have a better look at the sunroof leak. I removed the front part of the headlining to have a look which went smoothly enough (hopefully getting it back up will be equally trouble free) It revealed some rot in the sunroof tray which was really quite bad at the two drain hole exit points to the front of the sunroof

I removed all loose rust and coated liberally with rust cure to get a nice stable metal. Then, using lots of layers of epoxy resin and some tin (from the lid of a can of Chappie dog food) which I cut and shaped to fit over the holes - I made good the repair. Very satisfying.

However, I'm now thinking ahead and considering tackling the two drain holes to the rear of the sunroof tray, but access seems difficult to do any repairs there. I'm not even sure they will need repairing because those two drain holes have much better protection from anything getting down them and blocking them up. Would this be a correct assumption?

I would really appreciate anyone's comments.

eta. I've just re-read Pontoneer's advice above and have seen how to remove the sunroof panel - I think I will have a look tomorrow morning.

Chris.
 
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In the same boat. Anxious to read your updates
 

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