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W124 500TE - Lets do this!

Today I sent off some engine parts for cleaning.

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And took delivery of some refurbished items ready for installation.

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Sent off wheels that I plan to use for refurb

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Also sent off exhaust manifolds for coating.
 
Forgive my ignorance but I assume 500e estates don't exist?
I've heard of various estates being "made" including M3 and there's a chap who has taken on the e34 alpina B10 biturbo estate that has languished for a few years. Crashed B10 and 520 touring.
Since I love fast estate I heartily approve so Goodwood and I look forward to reading the rest.
 
Forgive my ignorance but I assume 500e estates don't exist? .

Yes that’s correct. There were no V8 estates offered until the w210 estate came in 1997.

The 500e saloon was only a limited run which ended in 1995.
 
Thanks Jay. Best of luck.
Looks like predicitve text got the better of me ion my last post - why can't you edit stuff now?
anyway it should say "Since I love fast estates I heartily approve so good luck and I look forward to reading the rest."
David
 
Hello all... Today I spent a few hours stripping the interior out so that I could trace the wiring loom back.

Its been a frustrating day, following cables back from the battery in the boot all the way to through the car and into the engine bay.

The complete relay box is now out and the entire engine bay wiring harness is out of the car.

Not an easy job but im glad its out of the way. I had been dreading it.

I still need to remove the wiring harness for the instrument panel, Ill try and complete that tomorrow...

Now that its out it doesnt seem too complex but I will keep queit until its in the estate and until it actually works!

I cant understand why the estate car has a speedo cable being a 1994.
The 500E doesnt have one and I cant recall seing a cable driven Mercedes speedo since the 80's...
 
Hello all... Today I spent a few hours stripping the interior out so that I could trace the wiring loom back.

Its been a frustrating day, following cables back from the battery in the boot all the way to through the car and into the engine bay.

The complete relay box is now out and the entire engine bay wiring harness is out of the car.

Not an easy job but im glad its out of the way. I had been dreading it.

I still need to remove the wiring harness for the instrument panel, Ill try and complete that tomorrow...

Now that its out it doesnt seem too complex but I will keep queit until its in the estate and until it actually works!

I cant understand why the estate car has a speedo cable being a 1994.
The 500E doesnt have one and I cant recall seing a cable driven Mercedes speedo since the 80's...

AFAIK all W124's came with a speedo cable Jay. You don't mean tacho cable do you?
As far as I know the 500E was used as a test bed for Mercedes fledgling databus - which linked the engine management system with microprocessors which controlled the transmission, electronic throttle ABS ASR/traction control- maybe they did away with the speedocable for this model only? :confused: This conversion uses the the rare electronic dash unit. Might give some styling ideas also?
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Thanks.. I guess I found it odd that the estate has both a cable and also the yellow green speed pulse going to the dash.. the 500e uses the speed pulse only..
 
Hi everyone,

The last few days I have been busy with the wiring loom from the 500E. It took me some time to free it from the car.

I had to follow the cables from the battery in the boot, to the engine bay, to all of the connector blocks and carefully pull it all out whilst labelling every connection.

The toughest part was the wiring loom inside the car. It is about 3x as thick as a regular W124 interior loom. It weaves in and out of various areas of the dash and all has to be picked out…

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I had to remove most of the remaining dash, the steering column etc etc. I had to unscrew each and every wire from the fuse box, carefully labelling each connection.

One night I took the whole lot home and lay it out on the floor.

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I then had the joyous task of carefully following each and every wire, removing the bits for the A/C, Stereo, Sunroof and so on. The wires I needed were the ones that affect running of the engine, gearbox and everything to and from the instrument cluster. It took me about five hours and one very sore back.

I don’t think I will know if I’ve made any errors until I try and run the car! I hope not!

I just need to tidy the wiring up and make it look like a loom again. Then eventually ill need to offer it up to the estate and splice it into the existing wiring where necessary.. Oh fun.

Over the weekend I took a break from wiring. Since the differential and reconditioned drive shafts were looking at me with their pretty new paint jobs, I decided to get the rear end complete.

The sub-frame was mounted last week. However there were some parts I wasn’t happy with.

I had already changed all of the suspension arms but the shock absorber bottom ball joints were totally shot. So I had ordered a pair of new shocks… £££ ouch.

Also the bottom ball joints on the rear hubs didn’t look great.

That was not a fun job to replace. Broke my special tool that I’ve had for years. Had to resort to making my own out of a head bolt and two large sockets..

So all of that was replaced and I mounted the differential last night with the drive shaft’s.

It was a bit tense when hanging the diff, as it looked like the brackets for the self-levelling valve and also the suspension spheres were going to catch the diff flanges… The suspension spheres are mounted differently in an estate to a saloon.

In the end, when the diff was mounted and left to hang, the parts all cleared each other by a mm or two! Almost like someone at Mercedes had designed it all to work together.. I may need to take my “adjustment stick” to one of the suspension pipes, but I’ll do that later once things have settled.

The rear end now has

- 500E sub-frame

- New sub-frame mounts

- Reconditioned differential with with genuine Mercedes fluid

- New self levelling shock absorbers

- 500E springs

- New suspension pipes both solid and flexible parts.

- 500E wiring harness for rear axle

- New anti-roll bar bushes & drop links

- All new suspension arms

- Reconditioned driveshafts

I did take some pictures of the rear axle all in place, but some wally left the memory card in the PC so none of them saved.

Ill get some later.
 
One of my prized possessions is a complete NOS 124 body wiring loom gotten of eBay for a song. Used all sorts from it to wire the 300SLD.
 
Hi Everyone,

Hope you all had a lovely weekend.

Last week I finished off the wiring loom. All taped and sleeved and hopefully when it eventually goes in, it all works! I keep having mini panic attacks wondering if I have cut wires that are required, hopefully all will work.

One major part of this conversion is the metal work required. Since I started the project I have been trying to find an experienced metal worker to come to us and carry out the transplants required.

I could have done it myself with the help of the Mercland technicians. However this level of metalwork is best done by someone who does it day in, day out.

I tried various welders that I know. One just ran off, one fell into fits of laughter and the last just looked at me as if I was asking them to weld me an Eiffel Tower.

Last week I dusted off the old yellow diary. The type that I used before the advent of digital cellular communication. There he was, back in 2008… The chap that welded the flares to the SEC widebody…

So I went to see him last week. I approached with caution as he was holding a blow torch. I talked, he seemed to listen. After a few deep breaths and shrugs, the deal was done. He would come over to our place with a hacksaw at the weekend, for a sum to be determined once the job is complete.

Im not sure payment in Pizza will work this time. May have to sell another child.

On Friday night I set up both cars on the ramps and I removed all of the suspension and steering parts from both cars.

Saturday morning, at 7am, Chris turned up wielding his sharpest chisel.

We need to transplant:

- Front Crossmember / Engine Support

- Left and Right Firewall Panels

- Parts of the Firewall down to the Transmission Tunnel

- All brackets for engine ancillaries

- Radiator Support

- Steering Damper Mount

After stripping away the seam sealer, the cross member can be removed by drilling out the spot welds and cutting through any seam welds.

The estate car was just spot welded but the 500E had both spot and seam welds. The dude at Porsche took his job seriously.

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Chris then started to remove the left and right firewall panels.

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A view from the underside

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These are both of the cross members out.

The 500E support is basically a R129 panel.

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We weren’t anticipating having to cut out the sections below the firewall panels.

However once the top panels were removed, it was obvious that this section had to modified to allow the V8.

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So instead of “unpicking” the whole of this double skinned section which extends from transmission tunnel up to the suspension towers, Chris decided to cut out the sections that are different, and weld just those parts in.



This is the 500E with that section now removed.

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The 500E cross member was “tacked” into place on the estate. This will be spot and seam welded later.

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This took us up to 6pm Sunday.

I then reinstalled suspension on both cars. The estate had all new parts for steering and suspension. The 500E steering parts, hub and brakes were taken over to the estate.

The brakes will be upgraded again later for larger items.

Chris will be back to “finish off,” although I think there is still a few days work to finish the metal work.

The cutting of the estate will need to be a lot more precise to ensure a perfect finish.



Some shiny parts arrive back to keep the motivation up. Ceramic coated. Sorry I don’t care what anyone says.. The spray on stuff just doesn’t last. This is the only way when it comes to exhaust manifolds.

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My plan now is to offer up wiring inside the cabin when I get time. I need to find a suitable spot for the battery in the luggage area and then the rest can be routed.

That’s it for now!
 
Bloody hell Jay, respect. You don't do things by halves!

Cheers,

Gaz
 

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