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W203 or S203 ?

davynick

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As a recent covert to mercedes and wishing to renew the discs on my C270CDI Auto 2001 estate I need to define between the above
VIN/Chassis no is WDB2032162F119802,does this mean its a W203 ?
If so what defines a W203 from a S203 ?:cool:
 
W = Wagon
S = ??? (estate?)
C - Coupe
R = ??? (convertible?)

Does anyone know? :confused:
 
As a recent covert to mercedes and wishing to renew the discs on my C270CDI Auto 2001 estate I need to define between the above
VIN/Chassis no is WDB2032162F119802,does this mean its a W203 ?
If so what defines a W203 from a S203 ?:cool:

The 7th digit denotes it's an estate, the 2 as in WDB2032.......the saloon is WDB2030....
 
W = Wagon
S = ??? (estate?)
C - Coupe
R = ??? (convertible?)

Does anyone know? :confused:

W = wagen (car)
S = station wagon (estate car)
C = coupé
R = Reihe (series), but more commonly Roadster
 
W = wagen (car)
S = station wagon (estate car)
C = coupé
R = Reihe (series), but more commonly Roadster

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How can an S203 be the same as W203? One is estate, the other saloon... you said as much yourself...
 
How can an S203 be the same as W203? One is estate, the other saloon... you said as much yourself...


Not quite. W203 is the (second-generation) C Class. S203 is the estate derivative, but it's still a C Class, so it's still a W203.

Equally, the C208 is a W208, the R171 is a W171, and so on.
 
Not quite. W203 is the (second-generation) C Class. S203 is the estate derivative, but it's still a C Class, so it's still a W203.

Equally, the C208 is a W208, the R171 is a W171, and so on.

Not quite. The 2nd gen is a 203, the S, W and C denotes wether it's the saloon, estate or coupe. The model is 203 the variant is W or S etc.

Similarly the 171 is an R only there is no W171
 
Not quite. W203 is the (second-generation) C Class. S203 is the estate derivative, but it's still a C Class, so it's still a W203.

Equally, the C208 is a W208, the R171 is a W171, and so on.

There is no W171. Its R171.

Just like the R230 and R129.

Interestingly though the ML is W164 and the GL is X164!
 
OK, more correctly they are all Wxxnnn, where xx can be DB, DC, DD or MX. My point, though, was that the W (or Wxx) prefix refers generically to the range, while the other prefixes denote specific body derivatives.

The R171 is officially type WDB171 (or W171 for short), while its 'Typ' designation is indeed just 171. However, as there is only one body style, it is almost universally referred to as R171.

All of the current range, including the 'W164' and 'X164', have a Typ designation consisting of just 3 digits with no prefix, as is borne out by the VIN plates, so those last two are both derivatives of Typ 164. Similarly, the CL203's VIN starts 'WDB203' and its Typ designation is just plain ol' 203. Not disputing that where there's a saloon model in the range, this will claim the W prefix by default these days, but I still maintain that it also relates to the range (or platform) as a whole.

Now, back to those VIN prefixes. Presumably the definitive 'WDB' stands "Wagen Daimler Benz", 'WDC' (M, GL and R Class) would be DaimlerChrysler and 'WDD' (A, B, S, CL and CLS Class) would be Daimler AG. Any idea what determined which prefix models received? It doesn't seem to be directly related to their development/launch dates (R171 was well into the DC era, for instance). And what about the 'WMX'-prefixed SLS: how does 'MX' relate to Mercedes-AMG?
 
The WDB is the 'World Manufacturer Code' and nothing to do with the model type (excepting that models are manufactured in various locations)

The W prefix has come about purely through 'lazy' phraseology. The model is nnn, it's variant is W, S .. etc. Where it was manufactured is the WDB, WDC etc..

From EPC -- (My red highlight - note there is no W, S etc)

"The following data can be entered in the input field:

Model series (3 digits) e.g. 202 and RETURN .

Model series (6 digits) e.g. 202022 and RETURN .

Internal vehicle identification number (FIN) e.g. WDB2110161A001188 and RETURN .

External vehicle identification number (VIN) e.g. WDBHA22E0SF184942 and RETURN ."

Also from EPC --


"World Manufacturer Code" pull-down menu

The "World Manufacturer Code" pull-down menu is used to select or enter the desired World Manufacturer Code or parts of it.

The World Manufacturer Code identifies the country in which the vehicle was produced.
It is a constituent part of each vehicle identification number and can be seen in the vehicle identification number affixed to the vehicle as well as on the certificate of registration and the ownership certificate.

List of World Manufacturer Codes:

3AM Mexico
3MB Mexico
4JG M-Class except Europe
5DH Mexico Bus
8AB Argentina
8AC Argentina
9BM Brazil
ADB South Africa
KPA South Korea vans
KPD South Korea
KPG South Korea
LE4 Chinese production
MHL Indonesia
NAB Iran
NMB Turkey
RLM Mercedes-Benz Vietnam
TAW NAW Switzerland
TCC smart
VAG Steyr cross-country vehicles
VF9 EVOBUS France
VS9 EVOBUS Spain
VSA Spain
WD1 Sprinter
WD2 NAFTA Sprinter
WD3 Sprinter
WD4 Sprinter
WD5 NAFTA Sprinter
WD6 Unimog NAFTA
WD7 Unimog NAFTA incomplete
WD9 Sprinter
WDB Germany
WDC M-Class Europe/203/G-Wagon-USA
WDD Germany DaimlerChrysler
WDF Rest of world (ROW)
WEB EVOBUS Mercedes-Benz
WKK EVOBUS Setra
WME smart
 
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