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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

Wolfie1 said:
There must be 3, as at work we have 2 different types of plugs for charging vehicles and then tesla have their own
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Apparently 3 or 4.....and not all charger points work on all cars. The video I posted covers this quite well.
 
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alabbasi said:
Sure if you live in a detached house with a garage. But most inner city homes don't. For that matter, there's usually a 5 minute walk between your car and your front door. So effectivly making it useless to people that live in the places ICE are being banned.
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AND.... the cable to the garage has to be big enough to cope with an ev charger. My son’s previous house was a new build and the power in the garage tripped if you used in a vacuum cleaner while running the fridge in there......
 
Rorywquin said:
AND.... the cable to the garage has to be big enough to cope with an ev charger. My son’s previous house was a new build and the power in the garage tripped if you used in a vacuum cleaner while running the fridge in there......
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Most home charge ports are new wired back to the fuse box, or to the main switch into the house. It’s basically a dedicated 32amp feed (think cooker/electric shower feed). Mines into the garage which has a tethered (attached) cable then when we want to charge the errands car we just run the cable under the door.

If the cars locked - the cable is secured to the cars charge port.
 
BPD07 said:
Most home charge ports are new wired back to the fuse box, or to the main switch into the house. It’s basically a dedicated 32amp feed (think cooker/electric shower feed). Mines into the garage which has a tethered (attached) cable then when we want to charge the errands car we just run the cable under the door.

If the cars locked - the cable is secured to the cars charge port.
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Who pays for the cost of installing the charging point at a private home & what happens when I buy a car that uses a different plug? Will the same system work?

EV - just seems a schlepp to have to get home every day (usually in cr@ppy weather) sort out cables and plug in the car and then reverse the process the next time I want to use the car.......;)

I’ll eventually switch but there needs to be many more charging points, better range and standardised ways of connecting the car to the charger.
 
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markjay said:
Then, this is not a subsidised service, instead it is run by Shell as a commercial enterprise, so it will only work if the figures stack-up. At current, they are selling the electricity at roughly double that of home electricity, and half that of a fast public charger. But if this price does not raise sufficient revenue to cover the R&D and installation costs and generate a profit, then it may not be viable to roll out this solution to other cities in the UK
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For anyone with their own drive and garage, public charging will be a distress purchase when they can do it for half the cost or less at home. The majority of EV charging is already said to be done at home and why would that change unless the cost of public charging becomes something less than a multiple of domestic costs. In fact home charging is likely to increase in dominance as range increases to perhaps 500 miles This is the dilemma for the roll out of public charging, do we really need a public charging infrastructure as big as some suggest other than to satisfy the demand for those with no facility to charge at home. I think your point about profitability will drive the numbers. We've all seen the closure and steady reduction in numbers of petrol stations due to insufficient profit and EV charging will be no different.
 
Rorywquin said:
Who pays for the cost of installing the charging point at a private home & what happens when I buy a car that uses a different plug? Will the same system work?

EV - just seems a schlepp to have to get home every day (usually in cr@ppy weather) sort out cables and plug in the car and then reverse the process the next time I want to use the car.......;)

I’ll eventually switch but there needs to be many more charging points, better range and standardised ways of connecting the car to the charger.
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The new charging standard is CCS & all EVs use this now. CCS ports are also backwards compatible with Type 2.

Tethered chargers remove the hassle of sorting out cables, just plug in and go.
 
Rorywquin said:
Who pays for the cost of installing the charging point at a private home & what happens when I buy a car that uses a different plug? Will the same system work?

EV - just seems a schlepp to have to get home every day (usually in cr@ppy weather) sort out cables and plug in the car and then reverse the process the next time I want to use the car.......;)

I’ll eventually switch but there needs to be many more charging points, better range and standardised ways of connecting the car to the charger.
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Home owner pays, sometimes you get a deal with a new car that they will pay the install - best price I’ve found is £510, we used ours for a year on the 13amp charger. Car sockets are now standard (ish) with just Tesla being the odd ball, you will find that most cars cars are now type 2, and CCS (rapid charge) and have been since 2015.

I guess you’re one of those people who stop off on the way home from work every night and top up their car/van with dinasour juice, just in case they have to drive 500 miles without stopping in the morning. Or do you fill up when you need too - which is how it works on an EV. Uncoil cable plug in… coil up cable or just hang it on a handy hose roll holder in the garage when you’ve got what you want.

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Heres a story for yous, after the ev charging points were installed at work 1 of my colleagues bought an electric corsa with the idea of charging it up at night, driving to work putting it on charge and then driving home again at night and then keep doing that, anyway he was told after a couple of weeks “no staff cars allowed on site”, so now he is back to parking on the street during the day then after work going to a supermarket to charge his car for a while before he can get home again, this is the some of the most stupid shit i have ever heard!
 
Wolfie1 said:
Heres a story for yous, after the ev charging points were installed at work 1 of my colleagues bought an electric corsa with the idea of charging it up at night, driving to work putting it on charge and then driving home again at night and then keep doing that, anyway he was told after a couple of weeks “no staff cars allowed on site”, so now he is back to parking on the street during the day then after work going to a supermarket to charge his car for a while before he can get home again, this is the some of the most stupid shit i have ever heard!
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The car, your mate or your employer?
 
My current strategy is to keep the C43 for another year or so and then look at the replacement - possibly the new version (C45, C53, whatever they're going to call it) or maybe an Audi if I don't like it (chances are slim). Keep that for 2 to 3 years and then look again at EV options and the state of the infrastructure. Currently it's the cost and infrastructure that put me off - costs of batteries per kWh are rapidly coming down and the infrastructure is slowly improving, but neither are in the right place for me at the moment.
 
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For anyone with their own drive and garage, public charging will be a distress purchase when they can do it for half the cost or less at home. The majority of EV charging is already said to be done at home and why would that change unless the cost of public charging becomes something less than a multiple of domestic costs. In fact home charging is likely to increase in dominance as range increases to perhaps 500 miles This is the dilemma for the roll out of public charging, do we really need a public charging infrastructure as big as some suggest other than to satisfy the demand for those with no facility to charge at home. I think your point about profitability will drive the numbers. We've all seen the closure and steady reduction in numbers of petrol stations due to insufficient profit and EV charging will be no different.
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You raise a valid point, electricity from public chargers should be kept more expensive than home electricity, to ensure that the public chargers are available for those who need them and do not have the alternative option of charging at home.
 
Rorywquin said:
EV - just seems a schlepp to have to get home every day (usually in cr@ppy weather) sort out cables and plug in the car and then reverse the process the next time I want to use the car.......;)
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With a typical range of 300 miles, and an optimal charging regime of 10% to 80%, you're looking at charging the EV every ~200 miles. Can you work out how frequently will you need to charge it, given your average daily mileage?
 
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BPD07 said:
I guess you’re one of those people who stop off on the way home from work every night and top up their car/van with dinasour juice, just in case they have to drive 500 miles without stopping in the morning. Or do you fill up when you need too - which is how it works on an EV. Uncoil cable plug in… coil up cable or just hang it on a handy hose roll holder in the garage when you’ve got what you want.

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You guessed wrong! What dinosaur juice makes the electricity for your car?;) Renewable energy is still only 40% of UK consumption.
 
markjay said:
You raise a valid point, electricity from public chargers should be kept more expensive than home electricity, to ensure that the public chargers are available for those who need them and do not have the alternative option of charging at home.
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And disincentive EVs for those with no home charging option. A punitive cost to people who who's housing situation may be as it is due to lack of funds to buy a property and a further inflationary effect on houses that home charging is possible.
More public chargers that are affordable would be better than further distorting an already warped housing market.
 
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