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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

There's 11 lamp posts on my street, 65 households, on average 3 cars each. One post is right outside my path, not a chance of parking there, we have 2 cars, one each side of said post. Plug in to your house and foot your own fitting bill.

People living in houses with drives will obviously install their own chargers, it's a no-brainer, it's much cheaper than using public chargers. I expect that lamppost charging will become common in areas where people live in flats with no private parking, but I don't see anyone using a public charger if they can charge their car on the cheap on their own drive.
 
I expect that lamppost charging will become common in areas where people live in flats with no private parking,
So 500 plus people will just abandon their EV outside any bodies house within half a mile,

FFS,

Its not practical until multi super charger infrastructure is fitted as common as petrol stations.

If you live in a flat, in a city, what are you doing with a car in the first place ??? how dare you have your OWN car.
 
People living in houses with drives will obviously install their own chargers, it's a no-brainer, it's much cheaper than using public chargers. I expect that lamppost charging will become common in areas where people live in flats with no private parking, but I don't see anyone using a public charger if they can charge their car on the cheap on their own drive.
I see the police being kept busy over punch-ups for the charging point....;)
 
So 500 plus people will just abandon their EV outside any bodies house within half a mile,

FFS,

Its not practical until multi super charger infrastructure is fitted as common as petrol stations.

If you live in a flat, in a city, what are you doing with a car in the first place ??? how dare you have your OWN car.

I don't think you followed my posts fully... I agree that having a public charger "within half a mile" is as good a solution as a chocolate teapot.

But lamppost charging in locations where residents do not live in houses with drives is a different matter. In the UK, lampposts are typically spaced 30m to 50m apart, and with a typical parking bay being around 4m long, less some kerb areas with single or double yellow lines, you're looking at probably around 5 to 7 cars per lamppost.

Again, with a typical charging regime most EVs will be charged every other week. So this will really not be a problem.

However, admittedly lamppost charging at current isn't widely available, and there may issues - commercial or technical - why it might not work in some place.
 
Fully autonomous capability combined with wireless charging will solve the on-street charging problem. But at a cost beyond the means of many. Until then, a great deal of cooperation and forfeiting of evening leisure time will be required.
 
So 500 plus people will just abandon their EV outside any bodies house within half a mile,

FFS,

Its not practical until multi super charger infrastructure is fitted as common as petrol stations.

If you live in a flat, in a city, what are you doing with a car in the first place ??? how dare you have your OWN car.
If there’s only on street parking available then that’s what already happens with ICE cars, it’s not an EV thing!
 
I smile when I read comments that “tax payers must foot the bill” especially when it’s implied that those who can least afford have no choice but to meet the cost. I’ve copied/pasted this from a previous thread (my words) but it illustrates a point.

During the period that the average person’s children are being educated, I suspect that they don’t pay enough income tax to cover the cost of their children’s education, nevermind contribute towards the cost providing any other public services.

I believe that the cost of educating a primary school child is currently around £5,000 per annum. To pay £5,000 in income tax, one must earn £37,500 per annum.

The average person has two-ish children, and when those children are in secondary school the cost increases to £6,500 per annum. The average family will have children in education for almost 20 years. The average income in the UK is £30,420 per annum.

It costs £85k to educate a child to the age of 18, so the average family with two children will cost £170k. It would take someone earning the average salary 48 years to pay enough income tax to meet the cost of their children’s education, before contributing a penny towards other public services. Around the time they retire.


The above is over simplified as it ignores other forms of taxation beyond income tax, and it is also ignores any benefits. However I believe the phrase “tax payer” is generally considered to be those paying income tax.

It also ignores inflation but in the basis that salaries and costs can be reasonable assumed to rise at a similar rate then inflation is neutralised in the final calculation.

I don’t have the time or inclination to look more deeply into it however I strongly suspect that the average person in the UK take out more from the “system” than they pay in (in the form of income tax).
 
I see the police being kept busy over punch-ups for the charging point....;)

True, but then again (sadly) rows over parking and other types of road rage incidents in general have been around for ages. Some people are selfish barstewarts, others are hot-headed and have a short fuse, and the combination of the two can be explosive.
 
There was a post on the caravan and motorhome club where a guy towed his caravan with a polestar, yea it towed it but he had to make 3 long stops to get where he was going and when he did stop to recharge as he put it luckily the car park wasnt busy as he had somewhere to unhitch and park his caravan so as he could park at a charger and charge his car! Another thing he did and this sounds terrible was that he tucked in behind an arctic to reduce wind drag to increase range which to be honest doesnt really sound a very pleasant drive!
It’s great that EVs can tow. It means that for those people for whom it makes most sense to have an EV can also use it for towing occasionally.

Based upon current battery technology they might have to stop more often to recharge on longer journeys than in an ICE car, but the big benefit is that they can top up their charge whilst pitched, whereas an ICE car will need to visit petrol stations whilst driving around on holiday and before setting off. Convenience and inconvenience works both ways.
 
The said children will eventually contribute for the next generation
The average of that next generation will also take out more than they pay in though u less the tax system is turned on it’s head and people pay much more tax at much lower income levels.
 
Now that really needs to go up in the mid range/bracket, but thats another thread 😇
Sorry I miss your point there?
 
Can't wait till weekend 😇

Not directly related, but I keep saying that having less cars and driving them less is the only long term solution for many of our current issues.

Rows over parking are often a direct result of the fact that blocks of flats built before the eighties will typically not have off-street parking, because much fewer people owned a motor vehicle back then.

The current pressure on public parking spots in cities is a direct result of the massive increase in private car ownership, where many families now have not just one car, but two. Our cities just weren't designed for that.

Newer developments will have off-street parking, or in some cases the Council will only grant planning permission in the condition that the Leases must have a clause that forbids Leaseholders from applying for a street parking permit, which in practical terms means that residents cannot have a car.
 

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