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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

Trip computers try their best to forecast range but can easily be caught out, whether EV or ICE, as all they have to go on is the amount of fuel in the tank (or charge in the battery), and recent consumption (or driving style).

They forecast the future consumption - and therefore range - based largely upon what has happened in the past. It would be able to estimate range more accurately if the destination, route and live traffic conditions were all known too.

On Friday I refilled my petrol car, and immediately after refilling the range was 400 miles - after driving a further 20-30 miles the range was up to 480 miles, so at that time the car thought that more than 500 miles was possible on a full tank.

Before refilling I was driving on relatively free-flowing 30 mph roads, and after refuelling I was driving steadily on a free flowing mostly 40-50 mph road. When I refuelled it assumed that I’d carry on driving as I had before, at 30 mph. After driving at 40-50 mph for a while it assumed I’d carry on doing that.

In reality nether happened. There’s absolutely no way that that car could manage 500 miles on a single tank in real world driving, but if I had carried on driving in exactly the same way in exactly the same conditions then I might have got closer than what actually happened.

In practice I joined a motorway - driving at 70 mph - and the range fell much faster than the distance being covered. I didn’t check at the end of my journey but I would estimate that the range would have been around 360-380 miles for the full tank.

Had I driven to the motorway, met you at the junction and swapped cars with you completing the journey in my car, it would be easy to conclude that the range forecast by the trip computer cannot be trusted. At a point in time - with constant driving conditions - it’s pretty accurate.

My other car (Suzuki Vitara) is mostly being driven around town (the kids use it sometimes) doing short journeys, when the tank is full the onboard computer shows a range of 290 miles, (which is essentially the same as my EV). However, if I ever hit an A-road and go at 50-60mph, I expect the displayed remaining range to increase significantly.

In short, it can be very difficult to compare 'range' between cars, let alone between ICE cars and EVs.
 
Both our EVs will display a target range at the beginning of a long journey.
These are both based on recent driving history.
If you drive like you did for the last 100 miles - then the range estimate is accurate.
If you drive much faster - then range disappears.
If you drive slower - you can arrive at your destination with more range than you started!!
 
Drive the V10 until they stop pumping petrol at the forecourts!
 
I'm in two minds on the issue. One the one hand I don't wish to be forced to spend thousands to be compliant, and at the same time, as I don't actually drive that much any more, I may look at something smaller and post 2015/euro 6 compliant in the short/medium term. I think electric vehicles and the infrastructure they require have a long way to go until they become viable in the real world, so I won't be investing in one in the forseeable future. I have however taken a punt on some shares, mainly in a couple of chinese EV manufacturers which will be long term 'investments' [he says in hope].
 
Finally own and run a V12 before it becomes socially unacceptable

It has never been socially acceptable. V8 has always been the Gentleman's choice. V12 smacks of new money.... so there :D

For full disclosure: been slumming it myself for the past 14 years, had between 2008-2017 a W203 C180 4-Cyl, and then 2017-2022 W204 4-Cyl again.... but it was a 'Turbo' 😎
 
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I have a soft spot for the Mitsubishi I-MIEV and went to view one when they were recently launched. There’s one for sale for £2500 too. Really tempted.
Just looked at that, smaller than a leaf, more like a smart car. £2.5k seems too cheap, I feel like there must be something wrong with it!
 
It has never been socially acceptable. V8 has always been the Gentleman's choice. V12 smacks of new money.... so there :D

V12’s charm …. until the maintenance starts

and there’s still that whiff of a chap who has had to buy his own furniture.

Eight or six makes more sense…
 
Just looked at that, smaller than a leaf, more like a smart car. £2.5k seems too cheap, I feel like there must be something wrong with it!
They’re the same size as a Smart ForFour, and very Smart like in appearance.
 
Given where I currently live (sorta kinda rural), I have to get on an A road and do 50mph to get anywhere, so I think a Leaf or Zoe might be a bit better suited for me. I also need to carry ‘equipment’ regularly. I’m currently using an old Golf with all the rear seats removed, almost like a van. Having a second car that could fill in the same duty but cost nothing on tax and be electric would be ideal!

Still learning though, and trying to avoid searching for mk5 golf GTI’s 😂
 
I’m now on a YouTube spiral!

Seems the Leaf didn’t have any liquid cooling for the batteries so some of them suffer from battery degradation if rapid charged often. Seems the price of replacements is getting cheaper / more realistic to DIY, including drastic upgrades.

However all a non issue in a modern EV eg a Tesla

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I’m now on a YouTube spiral!

Seems the Leaf didn’t have any liquid cooling for the batteries so some of them suffer from battery degradation if rapid charged often. Seems the price of replacements is getting cheaper / more realistic to DIY, including drastic upgrades.

However all a non issue in a modern EV eg a Tesla

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The perennial challenge with Tech: the new ones will be better. (They say)

Robert Llewelyn went into all this with his first Gen Leaf two years ago. I’m no expert on the subject and it will have all moved on, but it’s worth a look

Fully Charged is Robert’s EV and battery review channel.

Generally most haven’t rapid charged their Leaf. It’s from the overnight charge generation of EV’s


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Hi , Prime Minister has announced that more drilling licences have been approved for the North Sea operators.

BUT still on target to stop production of ic cars by 2030.

What is going on !
 
You meant to say "stop the sale of new ICE cars in the UK by 2030"? Our Prime Minister does not have the power to stop production of cars, given that most of the factories that make them are located abroad.... :)
 

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