Why so cheap??

[Darrell]

It's no coincidence that the people most sceptical of the new tech are folk who are running around in 20+ year old vehicles

Folks who were never going to own a new one, nor who are going to run an EV effectively for free because it's a barely taxed company purchase.

I’m still sceptical in regards to the fact that it’s powered by a battery that surely holds less charge the more times you charge it.

Also where I live doesn’t lend itself to charging and the type of driving we do means that the car won’t be left for a couple of hours in a shopping centre car park to recharge.

I need to check that the insurance premiums will be affordable when we put our 19 year old daughter with her 2 years of NCB on as wifeys named driver.

Still plenty to think about.

 

[markjay]

A Tesla model 3 standard r-plus with sub 250 bhp and 0-60 just under 6 secs is group 48. Very rapid acceleration?

Indeed compared to my 190d

What's the insurance group for nearest ICE C-Class or E-Class with 6 sec 0-60 then?

 

[markjay]

I’m still sceptical in regards to the fact that it’s powered by a battery that surely holds less charge the more times you charge it.

Also where I live doesn’t lend itself to charging and the type of driving we do means that the car won’t be left for a couple of hours in a shopping centre car park to recharge.

I need to check that the insurance premiums will be affordable when we put our 19 year old daughter with her 2 years of NCB on as wifeys named driver.

Still plenty to think about.

The battery does not seem to significantly degrade with time. Mine is 3 years old, and admittedly only covered 8,000 miles, but there's no noticeable reduction in range as far as I can tell from the onboard computer. The science is obviously correct though, and so I suppose it's all down to the number of charge cycles.

The insurance group is indeed likely to be high, unless you find a model that isn't powerful and that does not take off like a rocket.

 

[BTB 500]

All except one was current at the time of placing the order.

You didn't answer about the rare/specialised bit though? E.g. you wouldn't necessarily expect parts for an AMG One (for example) to be as readily available as bits for a C Class.

 

[BTB 500]

What's the insurance group for nearest ICE C-Class or E-Class with 6 sec 0-60 then?

I think the petrol C300 I have (0-60 in 5.5) is group 37.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

You didn't answer about the rare/specialised bit though? E.g. you wouldn't necessarily expect parts for an AMG One (for example) to be as readily available as bits for a C Class.

None of the cars I mentioned are top of the sales charts but all were cars ordered through the UK main dealer network, and regular Mercedes parts.

 

[markjay]

I think the petrol C300 I have (0-60 in 5.5) is group 37.

Is it available in the UK? I thought it was a US model. Can't find it on Parker's?

Edit: I was referring to new cars, didn't check obsolete models.

 

[BTB 500]

Is it available in the UK? I thought it was a US model. Can't find it on Parker's?

Mine is a 2019 car (W205), not a new model.

I assume @Darrell would be considering a used Tesla rather than brand new (but I could be wrong).

 

[BTB 500]

None of the cars I mentioned are top of the sales charts but all were cars ordered through the UK main dealer network, and regular Mercedes parts.

But I still wouldn't expect parts for a rare/exotic model to necessarily be as readily available as those for a C Class.

 

[Darrell]

Mine is a 2019 car (W205), not a new model.

I assume @Darrell would be considering a used Tesla rather than brand new (but I could be wrong).

Used and under £20,000.

I can’t afford/don’t want to finance a new one.

 

[Darrell]

The battery does not seem to significantly degrade with time. Mine is 3 years old, and admittedly only covered 8,000 miles, but there's no noticeable reduction in range as far as I can tell from the onboard computer. The science is obviously correct though, and so I suppose it's all down to the number of charge cycles.

The insurance group is indeed likely to be high, unless you find a model that isn't powerful and that does not take off like a rocket.

I reckon if we can get our daughter insured at a reasonable cost the cars annual mileage will be around 5000 a year.

In regards to saving the planet where a car is concerned I’m not convinced an EV helps one iota so the only reasons I can think of for buying one are because I like technology, none of my friends have one and the insane acceleration gives me a stiffy.

 

[Darrell]

For sure, I'm just pointing out that an ID3 costs very little compared to a Mercedes or Tesla.

I'm just a poor boy from a poor family, so I don't borrow money to use a car.....

But I'm told a PCP on an ID3 is £262 / month, half the cost of a much more expensive ICE C63

And the deposit?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

But I still wouldn't expect parts for a rare/exotic model to necessarily be as readily available as those for a C Class.

They’re not rare or exotic cars, and fuel filters, suspension struts and transmission mounts are common - service or wear & tear - items which would be reasonably expected to buy off the shelf. Drive shafts less so.

I know a few people with some rare and exotic cars and parts availability for Mercedes are regarded as being poor, which is even more surprising because Mercedes parts supply was once the best in the business.

 

[TC350]

What's the insurance group for nearest ICE C-Class or E-Class with 6 sec 0-60 then?

My 306bhp C350 with 0-60 just under 6 sec is group 40.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

I’m still sceptical in regards to the fact that it’s powered by a battery that surely holds less charge the more times you charge it.

Also where I live doesn’t lend itself to charging and the type of driving we do means that the car won’t be left for a couple of hours in a shopping centre car park to recharge.

I need to check that the insurance premiums will be affordable when we put our 19 year old daughter with her 2 years of NCB on as wifeys named driver.

Still plenty to think about.

(Shush, between you and me, don’t buy one unless you’re paying 4p / mile for electricity from the home “tap” or getting a big tax break on a new one)

19 year old named driver? Buy a 1.0 litre Golf or Focus

 

[ChipChop]

Was there a reason you went for the model with an insurance group of 48 rather than the model which is an insurance group 36?

Which spec Model 3 is insurance group 36?

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

And the deposit?

Dunno mate. Don’t know how the system works. Ever time I’ve looked at “car finance” it’s looked like a complete rip-off from start to finish.

 

[Darrell]

19 year old named driver? Buy a 1.0 litre Golf or Focus

Or keep the 2002 43,000 miler Fiesta runabout that we use at the moment?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Which spec Model 3 is insurance group 36?

Standard rear wheel drive model.

 

[ChipChop]

Standard rear wheel drive model.

That spec is not an option for Tesla model 3's on UK Autotrader. A Rare spec?