will MBSTAR help detect clocking?

[ChasesDragons]

Hello,
While I look around for my next low mile car, I just wonder if it is possible to tamper with w209 milometers and if so, can I get someone with an mbstar scanner to allay my fears?

 

[Diesel Benz]

Many cars are easy to catch (even service history can show it) but if the mileage has been properly changed from all control units, the Star tool cannot detect it.

 

[ChasesDragons]

Bugger! I have checked not history etc and it progresses consistently, but seems to have gone through tyres every 10k....

Thanks for your reply

 

[Howard]

What's wrong with that ?

 

[dozypillock]

Bugger! I have checked not history etc and it progresses consistently, but seems to have gone through tyres every 10k....

Thanks for your reply

I have done a set of tyres in a weekend in the past. Used to do a pair of tyres every time I went to the Ace café, and that was sometimes twice in one week.
Not sure how many miles a car clocks up whilst doing burnouts, but I guess not many at all....
Only people who drive like "granddad" will get tens of thousands of miles?

Neil

 

[m2287]

I'm lucky to get 3k to a set of rears!!!

 

[ChasesDragons]

??!!? What's wrong with losing about 10mm of rubber in 10k?....it would be the manner of driving that led to the loss and the subsequent effects on the suspension and drivetrain. Mine go 20-25k on Fallen FK452s.

 

[Alps]

depends on tyres really, pirellis wear really quick!

 

[ChasesDragons]

That's a good point. I think these were Michelin's or Goodyear. I guess even the makes won't help predictions as the compound might vary model-to-model.

I might have to just crawl around and check discs, mounts, bushes and stuff.

 

[mersum1es]

Many cars are easy to catch (even service history can show it) but if the mileage has been properly changed from all control units, the Star tool cannot detect it.

Here is example of bad one (sorry Finnish - it's about oil change records of W164):
http://eeppkk.kuvat.fi/kuvat/sekalaista/emailupload-2014-11-19_062028.jpg?img=img900
http://eeppkk.kuvat.fi/kuvat/sekalaista/emailupload-2014-11-19_062029.jpg?img=img900

Edit: In addition there was an error code of not matching mileage and CAN communication..

 

[markjay]

So the second oil change was done at 127,300 km .... and the third oil change at 69,400 km?

So it not only 'lost' 60k km between oil changes... but also it had just one oil change between new at 127,300 km...?

 

[markjay]

??!!? What's wrong with losing about 10mm of rubber in 10k?....it would be the manner of driving that led to the loss and the subsequent effects on the suspension and drivetrain. Mine go 20-25k on Fallen FK452s.

Tyres start with 7mm or 8mm when new.

The recommended replacement depth is 3mm, the legal minimum is 1.6mm.

So depending on the circumstances, the 10k miles went through between 4mm and 6.4mm of tyre tread.

Not unreasonable I would have thought.

 

[Howard]

Exactly.

 

[mersum1es]

So the second oil change was done at 127,300 km .... and the third oil change at 69,400 km?

So it not only 'lost' 60k km between oil changes... but also it had just one oil change between new at 127,300 km...?

Yes, of course whole thing smells fishy, but... I can't remember how many oil changes system records, older ones there was only few and then old data was over recorded by new entry. (So if this is case it might be that changes until 127000km has been done 5 times = 25000 which sounds ok. But service list buffer should be much longer in newer cars like W164)

 

[mersum1es]

Tyres; my new Pirellis went nearly slicks during one summer (may-sept ~15000-20000km)