A diesel S class????

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    I think the OP wanted some advice, but he didn't want that advice really.


    Last sentance, post 15, says it all.



    And yes, is the answer:eek:
     
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    hells teeth! your playing with fire now!!!!
     
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    Alright, time to bring this thread to a close.

    I will start looking for a nice well looked after S class. AND yes, whichever one feels right, will be the one I buy.


    Thank you everyone for all your advice!
    :rock:
     
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    Don't forget to come back and let us decide which car you should buy after you have seen a nice V8 petrol version.:D
     
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    quote=scumbag;694271]Don't forget to come back and let us decide which car you should buy after you have seen a nice V8 petrol version.:D[/quote]


    Yep course I will. Thakns a lot
     
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    LOL.. :devil: :D
     
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    No he's not, it'll never happen for a number of reasons and anyway, what rise of fuel cells.?

    Hydrogen fuel cell cars are the manufacturers way of distracting the public from asking for more efficient engines now.
     
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    Your sig indicates you have modified the coding on your car-is it possible for me to do this to mine? The newer version gets to program the car to fold mirrors and move seats etc when the key is put in/taken out. I wouldn't mind having this feature on mine (for now)
     
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    LOL..
    It happens to all who let it....:devil:
     
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    Don't you start!!!!
     
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    An interesting angle, and I hope you're wrong. When the internal combustion engines time has come, (which is when oil prices start to really surge or when it runs out) we need to have something else.

    Fuel cells are of particular interest as they will allow the car to continue as a car as we know it. Batteries (unless the game really moves on) are expensive, heavy, and have a poor range. Storing H2 fuel in a tank and running a fuel cell gives a lighter car, and a better range with a quicker refulling than charging a battery.
     
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    Creating hydrogen requires more energy than it gives back when burning, fuel cells require precious metals which are in short supply, fuel cells can't create enough power for heavy vehicles, transporting and storing hydrogen is a major problem. The fuel tank requires a lot of space.

    So, other than unsuitability, danger when transporting and storing fuel, not enough metals to manufacture production numbers, massive cost to produce, high cost to generate the fuel and the energy balance being negative, there's no problem....

    Manufacturers have had running fuel cell cars for well over a decade, but still non in production for general release...wonder why..??
     
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    The majority of coding mods are feasible because another model in the range have those features i.e. the features simply "switched off"!

    I do not know what's possible with the S class. If the features you are after were available as an option on your model and year then the likelyhood is high.

    The people most experienced in "up-coding" Mercedes cars are Alfie and Richard from comand.co.uk. Both are members of the forum.
     
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    Yet Toyota has stolen a march with hybrids and Tesla with battery cars. I would have thought that BMW could've got a few ultra rich to part with enough funds for an enviro 7 series before now..they've had them on the road for well over a decade.
    The economic climate may be an issue now, but we've had over 15 years of boom..

    That still doesn't get over the materials supply problem and that hydrogen uses more energy to make than it gives back when burning it. That's a pretty major issue.
     
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    Yes but no infrastucture for H2 powered 7 series, which uses an IC engine. There is no reason why H2 cars need to power fuel cells. I don't know this, but how long do fuel cells last? Longer than batteries, longer than the lifecyle of an diesel engine in a car (500k miles)

    Well you're right there, but H2 is used as a major industrial feedstock (ammonia production using the haber process) and this H2 comes from somewhere ;) - its stored too before hand and the beemer 7 and honda clarity car prove it can be used for cars.

    Renewable energy, and that source of energy using uranium may become sources of power where we overcome this energy deficit to make H2.
     
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    There isn't enough uranium for significant electricity to be produced from it, and that creates a whole raft of other problems, not least cost, Co2 production and radioactive pollution..

    As far as feedstock goes, there is no need to be bothered about energy balance, just cost to produce.

    Seriously I don't think there is a magic wand to make Hydrogen work for cars.
     
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    I would prefer the petrol myself

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    The electricity in batteries takes more energy to produce than we get from the batteries but we still use them. Energy is lost at the power station and in transmission.

    We are happy to use up some extra energy in exchange for having it on tap where we want it. So this doesn't seem much of an argument against hydrogen IMO.
     
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    That's just plain wrong.

    Who says the speeds wont be used?

    I don't use the speeds mine has over a 320CDI for 99% of the time, but the 1% when I do it is more than worth the extra expense.

    Dave!
     
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