AMG Emblem

[Petrol Pete]

Thanks for that , another school day.

That Time Mercedes Made A ‘C30 CDI AMG’ With A Diesel Inline-Five

Audi may be making headlines by turning much of its S range over to diesel power, but Mercedes tried something similar 17 years ago

www.carthrottle.com

It was a disaster.

 

[SmartAmg]

Can you have an AMG badge on a BMW, obviously after the M badge

Don't be silly.

 

[A.J.]

Hopefully you take it off when indoors.

I wear a lightweight ‘flat cap’ when driving with the roof down or a properly brimmed hat when outdoors. Going bald has never bothered me but that bare patch seems to burn easily.

Only when I go to bed

 

[BTB 500]

It was a disaster.

??

AFAIK it was OK as cars go ... there just wasn't enough demand for 'performance diesels' back then. It might have been a different story 5 or 10 years later.

 

[chic0821]

Don't be silly.

Ah well better tell my neighbour to take off the AMG badge or is it the M badge

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I don’t understand. What would be the reason to put an AMG badge on a car that is not an AMG?

The guys with fake badges on their cars are probably the same group that buy knock-off designer gear are “faking it till they make it”!

No doubt I find the reaction as curious as others find the act of adding a badge. I can’t see a problem though.

I understand that someone with an AMG line, AMG Sport - or any other model with some AMG parts - might want to add an AMG badge. I doubt many do it to mislead others. Very few will be fooled - those who know know, those who don’t don’t care.

Some “premium” brands have a strong attraction, especially when people feel an affinity with brand values. For some they’re aspirational and for others they’re easily attainable, but the attraction to a brand can be just as strong at either end of the scale.

If adding an AMG badge to a car, wearing a “fake” watch or clothing brand gives those people a sense of belonging - and helps to inspire and motivate some to buy the “real” thing, then what’s the harm? The item might be “fake” but the person isn’t.

The only thing that separates the “fakers” from the “takers” is whether they can afford or justify the cost. I believe there’s more to concern myself with than whether someone else can afford the real thing or not, I care more about what type of person they are.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

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AFAIK it was OK as cars go ... there just wasn't enough demand for 'performance diesels' back then. It might have been a different story 5 or 10 years later.

Going back a few years, so I forget the details now, but I knew a guy who’s family owned a group of Mercedes dealerships, one of which supplied Brabus models until Mercedes reshuffled the dealer network into what we know it as today in the early noughties, and the Brabus side was closed.

In around 2004 he told me that it had been agreed that AMG would focus upon full-fat halo petrol models sold through showrooms, and sell no more hot diesel models. They would also hold back on offering “aftermarket” parts through dealer parts counters as had been the case previously.

Brabus would offer tuning packages through UK dealerships which were covered by the manufacturer and importer warranties (with a reduced max mileage) - targeted at diesel models as that was where most of the demand came from - and anyone wanting a full-fat showroom performance model would buy an AMG.

AMG would keep away from Smart, allowing the tie up with Brabus for “hotter” showroom Smart models. Brabus retained their dealership and full bespoke tuning programme, and Mercedes started to reduce their equaivalent (latterly known as Performance Studio). Brabus then changed UK agents to what we know today.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

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If adding an AMG badge to a car, wearing a “fake” watch or clothing brand gives those people a sense of belonging - and helps to inspire and motivate some to buy the “real” thing, then what’s the harm? The item might be “fake” but the person isn’t.

The only thing that separates the “fakers” from the “takers” is whether they can afford or justify the cost. I believe there’s more to concern myself with than whether someone else can afford the real thing or not, I care more about what type of person they are.

“whats the harm?"

1) Stealing from the rightful owners of the “brand”
2) Diminishing the value of the brand.
3) Knock off designer gear is typically “marketed” by criminal organisations, funding trafficking and assisting their money laundering. So by buying knock-off gear, people are assisting criminality. Where do the buyers of knock-off gear go to get their products? Certainly not from legitimate outlets.
4) ........etc

Oh and wearing fake designer gear is about as fake as it gets.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

As do i, Rory, AMG mats and Original wheels, personally I like the de-badged look, looks much better, but anyone who does have an AMG badge on (as long as it's a Merc) so what? doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Yea mine has a lot more (AMG) than mats and wheels.

It does not bother me, I simply do not understand why people do it.

It's all a bit sad, reeks of desperation and “keeping up with the Joneses”.

Reminds me of an English guy I knew that had a photo of his “children" as his wallpaper on his work computer. The interesting bit is that the picture also had his new Jag parked on his “in and out’ driveway so that the shot also included their big house.

 

[Gazwould]

This is nothing compared to hopefully the rare individuals that actually think they have an AMG , and I had the displeasure .

For whatever reason a C204 owner with yes a rare 3.5 CGI 125 Edition thinks his AMG Sport BlueEfficiency is the real deal .

Compounded by he actually thinks that it's Supercharged aswell .

There is no explanation available to me other than he's on a Kilo of weed a night .

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

“whats the harm?"

1) Stealing from the rightful owners of the “brand”
2) Diminishing the value of the brand.
3) Knock off designer gear is typically “marketed” by criminal organisations, funding trafficking and assisting their money laundering. So by buying knock-off gear, people are assisting criminality. Where do the buyers of knock-off gear go to get their products? Certainly not from legitimate outlets.
4) ........etc

Oh and wearing fake designer gear is about as fake as it gets.

Good point, what’s the harm …to other individuals (who have a reaction to it), not the owners of the brand.

I suspect that putting AMG badges on non-AMG models helps Mercedes more than it hinders, and may be net positive in terms of sales. It may also be true for clothing brands too - typically people who can readily buy the real items don’t tend to buy the “fakes” in any great volume or as an alternative for the real thing, and so is unlikely to reduce real sales for those brands in practice.

One day though those who buy “fakes” may one day buy the real thing - by definition they have an affinity with the brand.

 

[StMarks]

“whats the harm?"

Soo,,,,-What's the considered view on my potential purchase of that "OMG" badge for the back of my ratty old Vito 109 ??

 

[SmartAmg]

Soo,,,,-What's the considered view on my potential purchase of that "OMG" badge for the back of my ratty old Vito 109 ??

Yep, go for it.

 

[A.J.]

Soo,,,,-What's the considered view on my potential purchase of that "OMG" badge for the back of my ratty old Vito 109 ??

I just think that that is just a bit of fun. You clearly won’t be trying to fool anyone

 

[merc estate]

No fake badges on ebay or anything else.
So now lets start on fake lips and bits, wait wait let me get a chair and popcorn.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

No fake badges on ebay or anything else.
So now lets start on fake lips and bits, wait wait let me get a chair and popcorn.

Watching that SAS Who Dares Wins show with celebrities which gives me a good laugh & I enjoy seeing the Wadi Rum - as I have been there. However, those lips on Ferne McCann have even got the “staff” taking the piss.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Good point, what’s the harm …to other individuals (who have a reaction to it), not the owners of the brand.

I suspect that putting AMG badges on non-AMG models helps Mercedes more than it hinders, and may be net positive in terms of sales. It may also be true for clothing brands too - typically people who can readily buy the real items don’t tend to buy the “fakes” in any great volume or as an alternative for the real thing, and so is unlikely to reduce real sales for those brands in practice.

One day though those who buy “fakes” may one day buy the real thing - by definition they have an affinity with the brand.

You seem to be trying to rationalise buying fakes as being a good thing.

People buying fake goods are supporting criminal activity - there is nothing good happening.

Sadly, we do seem to have a culture where it is deemed ok to buy and wear fakes.

Another anecdote - same guy with the computer screen wallpaper mentioned earlier.

Him: “My son has lost his phone and needs another. Do you have an old one you don’t need?”
Me: “Sorry no."
Him: “Oh, then I'll get one that fell off a lorry from the Sunday market"
Me: “What are you teaching your son - that it is ok to buy stolen goods?"
Him: “oh..."

Flash house, flash car but happy to buy stolen goods.......

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Soo,,,,-What's the considered view on my potential purchase of that "OMG" badge for the back of my ratty old Vito 109 ??

That is out of context. “What’s the harm?” was me quoting someone else .

 

[A.J.]

You seem to be trying to rationalise buying fakes as being a good thing.

People buying fake goods are supporting criminal activity - there is nothing good happening.

Sadly, we do seem to have a culture where it is deemed ok to buy and wear fakes.

Another anecdote - same guy with the computer screen wallpaper mentioned earlier.

Him: “My son has lost his phone and needs another. Do you have an old one you don’t need?”
Me: “Sorry no."
Him: “Oh, then I get one that fell off a lorry from the Sunday market"
Me: “What are you teaching your son - that it is ok to buy stolen goods?"
Him: “oh..."

Flash house, flash car but happy to buy stolen goods.......

Some people just don’t get it, they are quite simply funding organised crime. Don’t they know it is actually illegal !

 

[Londonscottish]

How many M badged BMW'S do you see with the weedy single std exhaust. Almost every second one. If they are happy sitting at the lights going brmm brmm, I'm not going to ruin their day.

I actually met one one of those blokes. He proudly told me he had a "520 M". Er....OK.....

It sounded like a tumble drier full of spanners when he fired it up.