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[Deleted member 126251]

Some people just don’t get it, they are quite simply funding organised crime. Don’t they know it is actually illegal !

In some circles that is considered OK. Pretty much like insurance fraud or tax evasion - people seem to think it is ok.

 

[Londonscottish]

Can you have an AMG badge on a BMW, obviously after the M badge

Only if you have a Carat Duchatelet badge in the middle.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Father gets called to his son’s school. Little Johnny was caught stealing.
They get home and Johnny gets a proper thrashing. “That’s for embarrassing me."
After he has stopped crying Johnny, goes to dad and says - “Dad don’t forget, I still need all my stationary on the list from school”.
Dad “Don’t worry Johnny, i’ll get it from the stationary cupboard at work tomorrow."

 

[A.J.]

Father gets called to his son’s school. Little Johnny was caught stealing.
They get home and Johnny gets a proper thrashing. “That’s for embarrassing me."
After he has stopped crying Johnny, goes to dad and says - “Dad don’t forget, I still need all my stationary on the list from school”.
Dad “Don’t worry Johnny, i’ll get it from the stationary cupboard at work tomorrow."

That’s about right, my father would have beaten me black and blue with his leather belt if I got involved in anything like that. I am pleased he was a bit lively, it certainly kept me on the straight and narrow and I am pleased to say that it has filtered down to my Grandchildren.

My Granddaughter Kathryn who is now 25, my told her Mum that she was glad that she was strict with her because she didn’t want to be like so many of the people she meets with such bad attitudes.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

That’s about right, my father would have beaten me black and blue with his leather belt if I got involved in anything like that. I am pleased he was a bit lively, it certainly kept me on the straight and narrow and I am pleased to say that it has filtered down to my Grandchildren.

My Granddaughter Kathryn who is now 25, my told her Mum that she was glad that she was strict with her because she didn’t want to be like so many of the people she meets with such bad attitudes.

Both my wife’s parents and mine were strict.

Her’s never used corporal punishment mine did (her mother used mental torment IMO far worse than a strap across the @r$e) .

We both went to strict boarding schools.

We were strict with our son but no corporal punishment and he was also at boarding school (knock the edges off an only child).

He has grown into a very successufl man & is close to us. He is less strict with his kids but they are also growing into nice polite and well behaved kids.

And to stay on topic......he owns a real (some would say not) AMG (E53).

 

[Gbrowncls55]

Soo,,,,-What's the considered view on my potential purchase of that "OMG" badge for the back of my ratty old Vito 109 ??

Good comedy value! Doubt AMG would be pleased though

 

[NBPIH45]

You can go to aliexpress, there are many kinds of choices, and the price is also cheap, just for such small things, if it is electronic products, I do not recommend buying them.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

You can go to aliexpress, there are many kinds of choices, and the price is also cheap, just for such small things, if it is electronic products, I do not recommend buying them.

I don’t know. I buy a lot of electronic bits and pieces and they are all fit for purpose. Do you mean consumer electronic equipment?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

You seem to be trying to rationalise buying fakes as being a good thing.

No not at all, so please don’t confuse my comments as condoning or even suggesting that counterfeiting is a good thing. It’s not. I also don't disagree with your comments about there being a correlation between organised crime and “fake” goods.

However the link between organised crime and having an AMG badge on an AMG line or AMG sport model is tenuous. My reason for mentioning clothing is not to condone counterfeiting, it’s to highlight that the attraction to certain brands - including AMG and clothing brands - is just just as strong whether you can afford to buy that brand or not.

Like I said before such brands aspirational to some and attainable to others. It’s very easy to criticise the actions of others from the relatively privileged position of those brands being attainable. The situation is quite different when viewed from the opposite perspective.

The only difference between the person who buys the fake and the person who buy ms the real deal is the ability to afford it or justify the much higher price. Everything else is the same.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Errr thanks. I nearly always wear a Baseball cap, mostly because I have sun damage on my follically challenged scalp. Pic below

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Ditto, as do I, but to avoid that wretched skin cancer and crows feet that bedevil our mates like Hugh Jackman

But it's a particular kind of short character who wears a baseball cap to drive a tiny engined hatchback with an enormous exhaust pipe.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

The only difference between the person who buys the fake and the person who buy ms the real deal is the ability to afford it or justify the much higher price. Everything else is the same.

No it is not the same. One group is faking it and supporting crime and the other group is 100% legit.

I imagine that if you were the owner of quality product & brand that was being knocked off by criminals, diminishing your brand (and profit) you would not have the 'laissez-faire’ attitude that you currently promote.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

No it is not the same. One group is faking it and supporting crime and the other group is 100% legit.

I imagine that if you were the owner of quality product & brand that was being knocked off by criminals, diminishing your brand (and profit) you would not have the 'laissez-faire’ attitude that you currently promote.

Like I said before, the link between organised crime and putting an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport - or any other model with AMG bits - really is tenuous.

Counterfeiting is wrong, full stop. I think we’re agreed on that.

Where I believe that our thoughts differ is that I prefer not to judge the people who put an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport or other model, nor those who buy counterfeit goods for that matter.

 

[OldskoolRS]

Like I said before, the link between organised crime and putting an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport - or any other model with AMG bits - really is tenuous.

Counterfeiting is wrong, full stop. I think we’re agreed on that.

Where I believe that our thoughts differ is that I prefer not to judge the people who put an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport or other model, nor those who buy counterfeit goods for that matter.

I agree about the link being tenuous.

I would also add that if anyone who is on their high horse can honestly say that they've never bought something from China (that could well be counterfeit), cheap replacement phone chargers/accessories or downloaded a film, or music, or (back in the day) taped music or a myraid other things of that ilk that conveniently get ignored/overlooked/forgotten about then I think they are a very rare person indeed. Hand on heart they are all things that I've probably done (bar the film thing) at some point in my life, sometimes unintentionally too.

Recent example: I bought some special coated guitar strings because the standard type were rusting before I'd got through our rehearsals and at £5 a pack it was getting a bit stupid having to replace them after 3 hours or less use. I found a UK based seller advertising them at £8 a pack...good price and not suspiciously low (usually £10 or so). Turns out they were counterfeit and I had two packs break strings in fairly short order, one during a gig last weekend mid song. Of course the seller is denying that they aren't genuine and I've binned the packages now so have nothing to prove it other than a photo of the pack which is subtly different to the genuine article.

While I thought I was doing the right thing buying from a UK supplier, I still got caught out. No idea if I subsidised organised crime doing that, but it wasn't my intention and I'd never considered that someone would counterfeit guitar strings, but you live and learn I suppose.

Now that's what I call tenuous.

 

[merc estate]

Where would china be without fakes. They even fake Wohann as a fish market. Buyer beware only trust the person you see in the mirror and that maybe fake as you don't look as old as the bloke in the mirror.
Also beware of lips that come in the room 10 minutes before the bird.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Like I said before, the link between organised crime and putting an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport - or any other model with AMG bits - really is tenuous.

Counterfeiting is wrong, full stop. I think we’re agreed on that.

Where I believe that our thoughts differ is that I prefer not to judge the people who put an AMG badge on an AMG line, AMG sport or other model, nor those who buy counterfeit goods for that matter.

AMG badge, not AMG car. I feel sorry for them. "Sad & desperate" is what I was on about which segued, into counterfeit clothing, watches & other goods.

My conversation about organised crime was not related to the AMG emblem. You are well aware of that.

I don’t virtue signal. I’m very judgemental about people buying counterfeit goods and thereby, aiding and abetting crime.

You discussed different perspectves! The last time I asked, you chose not to answer my question on a different perspective, so I ask again.

Would you be so non judgemental if it was you losing money because people were knocking off your brand/product/invention?

 

[Deleted member 126251]

I agree about the link being tenuous.

I would also add that if anyone who is on their high horse can honestly say that they've never bought something from China (that could well be counterfeit), cheap replacement phone chargers/accessories or downloaded a film, or music, or (back in the day) taped music or a myraid other things of that ilk that conveniently get ignored/overlooked/forgotten about then I think they are a very rare person indeed. Hand on heart they are all things that I've probably done (bar the film thing) at some point in my life, sometimes unintentionally too.

Recent example: I bought some special coated guitar strings because the standard type were rusting before I'd got through our rehearsals and at £5 a pack it was getting a bit stupid having to replace them after 3 hours or less use. I found a UK based seller advertising them at £8 a pack...good price and not suspiciously low (usually £10 or so). Turns out they were counterfeit and I had two packs break strings in fairly short order, one during a gig last weekend mid song. Of course the seller is denying that they aren't genuine and I've binned the packages now so have nothing to prove it other than a photo of the pack which is subtly different to the genuine article.

While I thought I was doing the right thing buying from a UK supplier, I still got caught out. No idea if I subsidised organised crime doing that, but it wasn't my intention and I'd never considered that someone would counterfeit guitar strings, but you live and learn I suppose.

Now that's what I call tenuous.

My discussion about the link to organised crime is related to clothing, fashion accessories, watches etc. I very much doubt that criminals are going to make money off the occasional person that is desperate to pretend that it is an AMG or show off that it is an “AMG Line” whoohoo.

Aftermarket products are legitimate and are sold under a different brand. Eg a phone charger sold by Anker that will charge your Iphone is legal. If they were to make a charger that looked exactly like an Apple charger and sold as such, that is a different matter.

It seems you unwittiingly purchased a counterfeit item. That is a far cry from the people going to the markets in Turkey or sneaking into the back rooms of high street shops and knowingly buying knock-off designer gear etc because they cannot afford the real thing.

The amusing thing about the knock-off clothing and many accessories is that you can usually tell from a distance that they are fakes. Just need to look at the person wearing them.

Oh yes, I taped music back in the 60s when I was a kid and we didn’t really know it was illegal. These days everyone knows the score (pun intended).

 

[Tonye]

going to the markets in Turkey

All my Hugo Boss shirts are from there, was sat next to a chap from London at the hotel bar a few years ago, he was wearing an identical one that i had purchased earlier in the day. I went and put mine on and we compared the two, identical in every detail, right down to the stitching and embossed buttons. He payed at the time £90 ,i got 3 for £10. He was not a happy chappy that night. So are the London stores being supplied from Turkey and I'm just cutting out the middle man/women.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

All my Hugo Boss shirts are from there, was sat next to a chap from London at the hotel bar a few years ago, he was wearing an identical one that i had purchased earlier in the day. I went and put mine on and we compared the two, identical in every detail, right down to the stitching and embossed buttons. He payed at the time £90 ,i got 3 for £10. He was not a happy chappy that night. So are the London stores being supplied from Turkey and I'm just cutting out the middle man/women.

If you believe that you can buy genuine HB shirts for £3.33 each...............

For some the money matters more than the principle.

I was chatting to someone the other day and he was complaining that taxpayers are subsidising pensioner’s bus passes. A couple of breaths later he mentioned that he does as much of his buisiness as he can with cash transactions to avoid paying tax.

Go figure!

 

[RogerSausage]

I think recently it's been easier to spot counterfeit clothing as it's probably better quality! I've been shocked recently by how low rent and cheaply made some "premium brand" stuff is. Including a Balmain t-shirt that was washed at 30 degrees (as per the label) and has gone all misshapen, and an Amiri t-shirt where the label in the collar detached the first time it was worn . Both from reputable retailers, dreadful.

 

[A.J.]

I think recently it's been easier to spot counterfeit clothing as it's probably better quality! I've been shocked recently by how low rent and cheaply made some "premium brand" stuff is. Including a Balmain t-shirt that was washed at 30 degrees (as per the label) and has gone all misshapen, and an Amiri t-shirt where the label in the collar detached the first time it was worn . Both from reputable retailers, dreadful.

My wardrobe is mostly Gant and it ain't what it used to be, some of it can be quite poor. The remainder of my wardrobe is Fynch Hatton which in my mind is a better quality, German of course, need I say more ? Ralph Lauren is a good example where it is marketing over product too poor fabrics are their main issue