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Any advice for purchase of E class 350 cdi b/e?

I thought run flats were OE? This means you are hardly going to find a car without them surely?

I would guess most cars within budget, ie 2009-2010, will have proper tyres on by now.


That aside, hard to believe that BMW would spend gazillions on developing a car and then er put square wheels on it. The best tyres are going to be the ones the car came with since, within a level of tolerance, springs, shocks, ride height, track etc. etc. has been set up around that tyre selection.

:D:D:D:D

Purely a money saving exercise.

To be fair, the theory is great, but in practise it is only the latest F series cars that have got it nailed.
 
I may have to consider BMW again but now no great knowledge of their issues if any.
Don

Erm, the issues are many, and expensive :)

The worst being cracked wheels, ailing fuel pumps, early departing swirl-flaps and turbos - and of course thousands of cars being easily stolen!
The timing gear is failing consistently on the little diesels in the einser now. Design flaw.
Direct Injection petrols suffer choked inlets and valves in as little as 50k miles. I have personal experience.
 
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However, the 5 series with the 3 litre diesel suffers non of the above.

Style 315 alloys have had cracking issues.
Fuel pumps on cars between 2009-2011 have been failing, but will be replaced under warranty, we ot BMW to change ours on the 530d. Just need to ask.
Timing gear on the N47 2 litre diesel from 2010 is a problem.
318 and 320i engines have had injector problems.

Cars being nicked has been a problem on the E90 models, from MY2006-10.
 
gIzzE said:
However, the 5 series with the 3 litre diesel suffers non of the above.

Style 315 alloys have had cracking issues.
Fuel pumps on cars between 2009-2011 have been failing, but will be replaced under warranty, we ot BMW to change ours on the 530d. Just need to ask.
Timing gear on the N47 2 litre diesel from 2010 is a problem.
318 and 320i engines have had injector problems.

Cars being nicked has been a problem on the E90 models, from MY2006-10.

Make that 2007 -onwards for the N47 timing chain issue. Even more recent cars (2011 -onwards) with this engine (comes in different tunes, similar to Mercs, top of the range ones now putting out 184 and 218PS respectively) are now starting to report problems.
 
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That aside, hard to believe that BMW would spend gazillions on developing a car and then er put square wheels on it. The best tyres are going to be the ones the car came with...
There speaks a man who has never driven a BMW on runflats :D
 
There speaks a man who has never driven a BMW on runflats :D
Bmw did the same with mini when they took over,my daughter had a mini cooper s on run flats last year-she only kept it 4 months as the ride was terrible!
 
There speaks a man who has never driven a BMW on runflats :D

Exactly!

I have had the following BMWs on run flats....

120d m-sport
335i sport touring
535d sport touring
Mini One D
123d M-Sport
730d
320d sport touring
X1 18d
530d GT

Every single one is transformed into a proper BMW once you get them on proper tyres.

Also, had an F11 520d touring, that was fine on run flats, some 10 years after they started using them the chassis was ready for them.
It was just too soon to start using them when they did back in late 2003.
 
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There speaks a man who has never driven a BMW on runflats :D

Current F10 has runflats (19s) and previous E60 had them as well.

I'm just one of those who believes that those whose job it is to design cars get into the position they are in by actually knowing what they are doing. It's common sense surely - why would you design a car and then set out to totally ruin the ride by poor tyre selection? Obviously there is going to be a bit of compromise as they will be taking the middle ground and aiming to satisfy every type of driver on every type of road surface and in all type of conditions and climates. So yes - you can make a change to suit yourself but you should be conscious that the OE tyre selection is not a random one made without consideration to the way the car has been set up.
 
Current F10 has runflats (19s) and previous E60 had them as well.

I'm just one of those who believes that those whose job it is to design cars get into the position they are in by actually knowing what they are doing. It's common sense surely - why would you design a car and then set out to totally ruin the ride by poor tyre selection? Obviously there is going to be a bit of compromise as they will be taking the middle ground and aiming to satisfy every type of driver on every type of road surface and in all type of conditions and climates. So yes - you can make a change to suit yourself but you should be conscious that the OE tyre selection is not a random one made without consideration to the way the car has been set up.


As already said, the F10 was the first car where they got it right.
In Europe you could always spec the cars with proper tyres, it was just the UK where it was not an option.

BMW admitted they hadn't managed to get it exactly how they wanted it.
Peter from e90post had BMW and Bilstein come and try his car with different suspension set ups and tyres. He was a good example that even though the run flats worked pretty well on German roads in Scotland where he is the terrible surface and yo-yo'ing temperatures really made it an awful experience.

Not too bad one day when it is 10ºc, but the next day when it is -2ºc they fall apart.

The designers have openly said they hadn't got the cars to match the run flats early on, it was a compromise, one many were prepared to take. M division never used them, Alpina never used them, and a lot of Europe didn't use them, even with their much better road surfaces.

The Alpina D3 got universally praised for its handling and comfort, every review I read raved about it, it is simply using the m-sport shock and the springs from the 330xd with 19" wheels shod with Michelin Pilot Sport 2s.
Everything from the BMW parts bin, but they were not prepared to compromise on handling and comfort so used real tyres.
 

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